From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 20:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: <20200514192759.GB50681@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: <837dxh847w.fsf@gnu.org> <834ksl833q.fsf@gnu.org> <20200512201727.GA50065@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <960f9bf2-7931-1984-cb2f-ae32fe338928@gmail.com> <20200513165839.GA50560@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <83blmq6221.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="50312"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: casouri@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, eric@ericabrahamsen.net, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, ndame@protonmail.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 21:51:52 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZJtX-000Cym-VN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 21:51:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54616 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZJtW-0004x5-U4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 15:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59174) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZJZP-0005XK-1r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 15:31:03 -0400 Original-Received: from idiocy.org ([217.169.17.33]:54011 helo=breton.holly.idiocy.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZJZN-0008Vc-Sg; Thu, 14 May 2020 15:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: by breton.holly.idiocy.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 94BF12022C4EDB; Thu, 14 May 2020 20:27:59 +0100 (BST) Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com, eric@ericabrahamsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, ndame@protonmail.com Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83blmq6221.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.169.17.33; envelope-from=alan@breton.holly.idiocy.org; helo=breton.holly.idiocy.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/14 15:27:59 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Mac OS X [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250282 Archived-At: On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 05:09:26PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Richard Stallman > > Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 01:08:33 -0400 > > Cc: casouri@gmail.com, eric@ericabrahamsen.net, alan@idiocy.org, > > emacs-devel@gnu.org, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > > eliz@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, ndame@protonmail.com > > > > We can install small changes without papers, so the fact that a person's > > name is on a change is not proof that we got an assignment from per. > > Normally such commits should have a telltale header in the log message > saying this was accepted without papers. Of course, sometimes people > (including myself) forget, and Git doesn't allow amending commit log > messages post-factum, so the error stays there forever. Yes, I wouldn’t commit a change on the strength of a small number of short commits, but if they had a few large commits I’d have to assume they’re good. -- Alan Third