From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 12:40:08 +0200 Message-ID: <20200514104008.GD12925@tuxteam.de> References: <20200514101741.GB12925@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="45673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 12:40:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZBII-000Bhh-W1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 12:40:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZBII-0002xq-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 06:40:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZBHf-0002JW-HY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 06:40:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:47231) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZBHd-0003n6-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 06:40:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=iiFWo2SJl/BzNi5JaGDXJbs+TpDMjtCO70Y8LDgCHTE=; b=onSnrx7PJDHU7L6SjU75CIfJAOUAoiuGczMj90Usg/j1eY+UPB+E96WPvN1imx+ZxLCbaRkYdG1Yqp3bsC+sEWZBlrAnzdOCYb1KzZIB2+SSW5fiTQrrW8DvFEARqyE22UhwHSiPdTH+f8TQ31zbc8yo/v0hO2SnFrwfx3NC6ClubbPuHT7dnR40ayVTMTf1abUAuPBx97uSgE9woHyPXZfJk0YHb1Aqt7Ct1dFYUpnjBBGeIBhbJC7RrfdKarNJKLPqUlQ2ZqKyZw4nW3yqdSpJ+vxvitxAlhEee2c/ue0bMBcKrBtJbgLXbgt9irAml7FwnVSxzH2jHEbc4dkImg==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jZBHc-0006Jm-4Z; Thu, 14 May 2020 12:40:08 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/14 06:17:42 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250226 Archived-At: --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:34:50PM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 12:17:41 +0200, said: >=20 > nil> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:08:46PM +0200, Helmut Eller wrote: > nil> [...] >=20 > >> Or maybe Emacs could run inside a browser via WebAssembly or somet= hing > >> like that. >=20 > nil> I guess you're saying it tongue-in-cheek. But still I shudder at= this > nil> dystopia. >=20 > You=CA=BCre aware of , right? I'm not. I don't even want to follow that link -- I know it'll make me sad. Don't get me wrong. I'm well aware of what WebAssembly /technically/ is, and what's possible with it (including Spectre exploits). It's rather watching the browser (the one piece of software in my environme= nt I most detest and mistrust) evolve into the indispensable operating system. It's watching how a piece of formally free software becomes unfree because of crushing complexity and decommoditiation of protocols For one time I'm glad to be rather old and soon out of this game. Cheers -- tom=C3=A1s --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl69IAgACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaFpQCeJLRFfs5gCyexRTk2Ju6Shnba 46oAn0oVVnL7ZBqnigBszIAkzPdoOwXh =8lMw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT--