From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dan Sommers <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How can i enable webmode? Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 10:01:49 -0400 Message-ID: <20200511100149.94f919c3fc7fb7c4080b1f3e@potatochowder.com> References: <008d9cd4-8d24-f19b-82ad-d5c1bf7a435f@posteo.net> <86d07b6a4w.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <20200510125547.5382c9bf80ec29188688d990@potatochowder.com> <8636864r1b.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="39452"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 16:02:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jY90p-000ACB-Nd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 16:02:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54432 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jY90o-0004te-Mr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 10:02:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54012) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com>) id 1jY90G-0004s9-Ck for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 10:01:56 -0400 Original-Received: from www458.your-server.de ([136.243.165.62]:48166) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com>) id 1jY90E-00010A-Vl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 10:01:55 -0400 Original-Received: from sslproxy06.your-server.de ([78.46.172.3]) by www458.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com>) id 1jY90C-0005WR-1J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 16:01:52 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.58.175.121] (helo=scrozzle) by sslproxy06.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com>) id 1jY90B-000A5l-DN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 16:01:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8636864r1b.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Authenticated-Sender: 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.102.2/25809/Mon May 11 14:16:55 2020) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.243.165.62; envelope-from=2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com; helo=www458.your-server.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/11 10:01:52 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123069 Archived-At: On Mon, 11 May 2020 14:03:44 +0200 dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) wrote: > Inform is creating links (clickable buttons) from functions and > variable names in *info* buffers to their inbuilt *Help* > documentation. (The small code base is loaded with a ;;;###autoload > instruction.) > > After uninstalling (and restarting Emacs) the code is completely > removed. Then Inform is one of the good ones. :-) It's not so bad with Emacs packages (likely due to the guidelines Drew Adams quoted), but too much software leaves little reminders of itself behind, like random files under $HOME (or worse, random changes to files under $HOME). > Thinking about it, do you know if it is possible for a running > GNU-Emacs to erase its memory or part of it or same everything with a > name prefix? I don't know. I suppose it would be possible to call makunbound and fmakunbound on some set of symbols and then to run a complete garbage collection, but that doesn't necessarily erase or overwrite any particular memory, and it may leave other things in a weird state. For me, it's much easier to restart. > When I'm installing most browser add-ons they are immediately active > ... This is true. OTOH, browsing the web is more passive than editing files. > ... The same goes for OS package managers when I'm doing > > $ sudo aptitude install sshd > > the server is immediately started and this is how it should work. That's potentially dangerous, especially for sshd, depending on the default configuration and what's on the machine. Just sayin. Not all software is created equal. Not all users are created equal, either.