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From: tomas@tuxteam.de
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs canvas support
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:51:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200429185128.GA27164@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83imhixkva.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 08:27:53PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:16:19 +0200
> > From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
> > 
> > > Drawing over normal text, if we don't want to redesign the entire
> > > display engine, needs some new kind of "display element" ( a sibling
> > > to "character", "image", "stretch", etc.), one that doesn't
> > > necessarily have any effect on the metrics of the screen lines it is
> > > drawn upon.  I'm not sure I have a clear idea about what features such
> > > a drawing will need to support, but it could be possible to add such
> > > an element with not too much effort.  Would someone want to come up
> > > with a reasonable list of requirements for such a feature?
> > 
> > That sounds... exciting. Basically, Emacs would have to have a "display
> > list" of graphical elements to draw, each one perhaps having a bounding
> > box (to discard those from redisplay which aren't currently visible)
> > and perhaps a "layer" (more to the background or foreground).
> 
> That's not how Emacs controls what's on display.  It basically
> represents each window as a 2D array of glyphs, each one of which has
> a certain graphical representation.

...a display list of sorts.

>                                     The representation itself is of
> no concern to the display engine (well, almost); the only thing it
> cares about is the metrics of each glyph, because that's what it needs
> to do layout calculations.

A graphical overlay wouldn't have "glyph metrics", the graphical
objects would (I think) have "absolute" [1] positions (possibly
precalculated by something else).

> We need to try to fit into this framework, if possible.

I think the "interesting" problem is to know (quickly) which
graphical objects intersect the (visible) window -- something
graphics programs do as their main job.

Cheers

[1] Well, absolute is relative ;-) perhaps anchored at some text
   in the buffer, perhaps anchored to the window... I don't know.
-- tomás

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-29 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-04-29  6:34 ` Emacs canvas support Po Lu via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-29  8:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29  9:57     ` Po Lu
2020-04-29 10:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 10:22         ` Po Lu
2020-04-29 10:27           ` Po Lu via Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-29 11:47             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 10:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 10:41             ` Po Lu
2020-04-29 11:51               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 12:12                 ` Po Lu
2020-04-29 16:14               ` David Engster
2020-04-29 16:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 17:16                   ` tomas
2020-04-29 17:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 17:38                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30 13:11                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-04-30 14:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30 14:58                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-04-30 17:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-01 14:32                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-04-29 18:51                       ` tomas [this message]
2020-04-29 19:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 19:08                           ` tomas
2020-04-29 19:25                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 19:59                               ` tomas
2020-04-30  1:19                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30  6:55                                   ` tomas
2020-04-30 12:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30 12:50                                       ` tomas
2020-04-30  8:04                                   ` Po Lu
2020-04-30 12:08                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30 13:55                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-01 23:27                                       ` Po Lu
2020-05-02  6:51                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30 13:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30 14:37                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30 17:27                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30 18:22                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30 18:42                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30 14:27                                   ` Drew Adams
2020-04-30 13:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30 13:52                                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-04-29 19:23                   ` David Engster
2020-04-30 13:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30  6:52                   ` Corwin Brust
2020-04-29 17:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 20:14                   ` David Engster
2020-04-30 13:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 20:48   ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-30  2:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30 20:20       ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-01  6:01         ` Eli Zaretskii

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