From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:17:55 +0200 Message-ID: <20200429101755.GF24737@tuxteam.de> References: <87368npxw4.fsf@bernoul.li> <87v9ljo5d0.fsf@bernoul.li> <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li> <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SxgehGEc6vB0cZwN" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="43234"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 29 12:18:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTjnm-000B9q-La for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:18:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53972 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTjnl-0004G9-Md for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:18:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39198) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTjmy-0003Nr-0e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:18:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTjmx-0002n0-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:17:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:58517) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTjmw-0002dE-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:17:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=pNmCJjn+NBlvZCSaI0LHNZx6VB/eHMtwcQ+pJE4rltM=; b=LERZfRYQth3gk4TPMaCT+v1L7UxY/VP3DbJhTHrWKaTwYsd6tenNgPYRu+X4W74RP54Y0AQk7OqPTpZbQ72CWGZgAnwBdxlXm5mbWyE7plUROm2IFBlpEWoC0kuhfs5q2z4Rq8xUIIt8Q9ZJ4TAchpI1H0NiwPC8omXqVna0njQDd51b4Dh8VZfCsAq9xjHGDTRxy1aB9GaQBjzEDX115uLW90cmzqmh36MX2r+TKf3KiagVKeDQCQrt4ge+ISqvYZI04vQpoWH25Q6jouVwkhSFU9YwZLPqKNp+VeAp3vc1A5+xeoFIrMQf9wwYIYFmVJN6v/PpswEA2M4rk9UIfg==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jTjmt-0008Fs-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:17:55 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/29 06:17:56 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248107 Archived-At: --SxgehGEc6vB0cZwN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 01:05:30PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Philippe Vaucher > > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:50:08 +0200 > > Cc: Jonas Bernoulli , Emacs developers ,=20 > > Adam Porter , Kyle Meyer ,=20 > > Stefan Monnier > >=20 > > * https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Association= -Lists.html sometimes assoc, > > alist-get, assq, copy-alist. How am I supposed to use `C-h f alist TAB= ` to discover the function I want? I > > can't, I have to go to that webpage and read it all. >=20 > I think "C-h d alist RET" is your friend. Yes, but :) For people with some roots in Lisp culture (I'm one of them, mind you), "alist" is obvious. It's an association list, duh. For newcomers... not so much. I'm all for "building bridges" rather than "obliterating cultures", but it seems we need some ideas on how to do that. An interesting topic, for sure. Cheers -- tom=C3=A1s --SxgehGEc6vB0cZwN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl6pVFMACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYcTACeM7kGXAXHUisnNxmDilMqw3yl adAAnRydDE4uatbDqdiQBp5MMdvuUX5C =g6Kp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SxgehGEc6vB0cZwN--