From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [emacs-w3m:13607] Re: Browser Fingerprinting Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:56:07 +0200 Message-ID: <20200418065607.GA470@tuxteam.de> References: <87lfmx8frv.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <873694mu9f.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <20200417025514.5gotmp6vlvg3v25x@E15-2016.optimum.net> <87h7xio7dw.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <20200417085716.vbfkk5ibchc74ev5@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20200417093538.GB3844@tuxteam.de> <87ftd1g4tg.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="103290"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 18 09:00:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jPhSj-000QlA-AJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 09:00:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55378 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jPhSi-00019R-BT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 03:00:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43579) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jPhOi-0000KQ-HI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 02:56:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jPhOe-0006Ps-BW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 02:56:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:53342) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jPhOc-00064r-PP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 02:56:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=rsA8/hsf4wmpwneXsvUWp/jdlvy8tqsedgT/DKib4WI=; b=ntWwlGLLBt0beUP0h8RbDJXFIgyWblx4oDiKXqWSrLOeic3XjCv9nNSSEA7H+tHpY8rcp7wWe1tFjtDzIgSMoKPp0S63+ZQO7GQHZm/o/eDvLyTUu5lYrXpmCXqcGe4oX5t/S5WvT/41ckomhkfcebRCFpUhE+00srSi4mRRrN64l0jbIyt+fl4/m1JzCSm6r5ENDNR1PTYmzUEvohECydF8yHlcp3lCo7EwAjRuVF3GZeHacHSTZPeH2/FzjMv3rCcT0arkw2Z/9eK4vyxdiHWc5thLb4++P0/DKicG06hMV75eXQxAXZRUokloTbfUDqX49VrqGQI4aFcGSzj0FA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jPhOZ-0000EG-F9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:56:07 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ftd1g4tg.fsf@ebih.ebihd> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:122879 Archived-At: --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:50:19PM +0200, Emanuel Berg via Users list for t= he GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > tomas wrote: >=20 > > What I'd do is randomly select from a choice of, say, > > 100 popular browser strings. >=20 > Well, not _everyone_ who objects to this is an Emacs-w3m > user. Actually I'm sure the vast majority who disables > this feature does not use Emacs-w3m. So they can't tell > we use Emacs-w3m just because there is no UA! I was proposing that with some tongue-in-cheek ;-P But yes, this stupid data collection craze does get on my nerves, sometimes. > Besides, as long as there is data, incorrect as it might > be, this still encourages them to develop algorithms > that will act upon that data, and this might hurt > everyone else who still submits correct data. If the data is uniformly distributed, it'll hurt everyone uniformly (again, somewhat tongue-in-cheek ;-P > So I say we should not submit any data for two reasons, > one, other people are also not submitting theirs, and > two, other people are submitting theirs :) A friend of mine once proposed to return the contents of /dev/urandom if the server requests a cookie. All of it. But that was still a time when half of the Web servers there didn't request a cookie. 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