From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: lexical-binding is turned on in more use cases Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 19:41:10 +0000 Message-ID: <20200310194110.GC5046@ACM> References: <83k13ubv3g.fsf@gnu.org> <83imjebsrh.fsf@gnu.org> <20200308193048.GB4832@ACM> <20200309202259.GA16294@ACM> <20200310184127.GA5046@ACM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="93792"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 10 20:41:48 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jBklA-000OIa-6f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 20:41:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39392 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jBkl9-0008Pb-87 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 15:41:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59717) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jBkkc-0007ey-Lw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 15:41:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jBkkb-0004Lr-Nn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 15:41:14 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:14469 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jBkkb-0004Jr-Co for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 15:41:13 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 95315 invoked by uid 3782); 10 Mar 2020 19:41:11 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p4FE1593B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.89.59]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 20:41:10 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 5115 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Mar 2020 19:41:10 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:245446 Archived-At: Hello, Stefan. On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 15:05:36 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > You haven't answered the question. Why did you not initiate a discussion > > on emacs-devel before committing this patch? emacs-devel is where > > proposals that might or will break things get discussed; not a thread on > > bug-gnu-emacs, where most affected people won't see it. > It doesn't break any*thing*, AFAICT: For crying out loud! My very first post in this thread documented a breakage which actually happened. Please read it. And you STILL havn't answered the question: why did you not initiate a discussion on emacs-devel before committing this patch? It has broken long-standing behaviour, and from its very nature was always likely to do so. [ .... ] > Stefan -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).