From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, rms@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: Re: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen.")
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:43:18 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191125204318.GE4496@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2imncmt1c.fsf@newartisans.com>
Hello, John.
Sorry for the delay in responding. I've had a very busy weekend.
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 21:30:55 -0700, John Wiegley wrote:
> >>>>> "AM" == Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> AM> I don't see what the above paragraph has to do with my sentence that you
> AM> quoted. I purposely didn't include Apple in my "companies like that". As
> AM> you note, Apple has other flaws. You seem to be denigrating what I said by
> AM> a straw man argument.
> I misread you then, Alan, my apologies.
No problem!
> I actively avoid using Google software as well, because they install
> software without my consent that "phones home", so perhaps I'm more
> aligned with your sentiments than I had realized.
Yes. I don't use Google things either, and NoScript blocks out any of
their scripts used by third parties (of which there are a shocking
number).
"Phoning Home" from an EU state without the user's consent has been
unlawful for a year and a half now, at least. It's a pity there has
been no firm enforcement procedings as yet. Maybe they will come.
> --
> John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
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Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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2019-11-17 11:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 17:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-17 17:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 17:58 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2019-11-17 18:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2019-11-17 18:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-17 18:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2019-11-17 18:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-11-19 11:00 ` Michael Albinus
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2019-11-19 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-01 1:19 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-01-01 5:32 ` Drew Adams
2020-01-01 10:48 ` VanL
2020-01-01 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-01 15:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-01-02 2:35 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-01-02 23:45 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-01-22 12:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 20:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-17 21:33 ` João Távora
2019-11-17 22:05 ` dick.r.chiang
2019-11-17 22:19 ` Amin Bandali
2019-11-17 22:56 ` João Távora
2019-11-18 7:38 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18 8:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18 8:54 ` Michael Albinus
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2019-11-18 9:16 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18 9:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18 9:23 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18 9:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18 10:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-18 11:12 ` Michael Albinus
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2019-11-17 19:07 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-17 19:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-17 19:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-17 19:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 20:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 20:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 20:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 20:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2019-11-18 11:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2019-11-18 11:36 ` João Távora
2019-11-18 12:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18 12:21 ` João Távora
2019-11-18 11:58 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-17 20:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 20:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18 3:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 14:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18 14:46 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-19 8:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 1:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-19 6:08 ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-19 11:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-19 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 11:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-20 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-11-20 19:29 ` João Távora
2019-11-20 20:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-11-21 15:09 ` João Távora
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2019-11-21 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-11-21 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-11-22 9:46 ` João Távora
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