From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Corrected tarballs for Emacs 23.2 and 23.3 Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:51:33 +0100 Message-ID: <20191.10517.713344.799189@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <87vcq72x4p.fsf@gnu.org> <20176.50580.786896.133491@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20185.65327.407385.493168@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <7ohb1dz24a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1323247906 11403 80.91.229.12 (7 Dec 2011 08:51:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 07 09:51:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYDE5-0005Nc-2n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:51:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42630 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYDE4-00049w-CX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:51:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40453) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYDE2-00049q-3i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:51:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYDE0-0007U2-RO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:51:38 -0500 Original-Received: from a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:37555) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYDE0-0007Tj-Jo; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:51:36 -0500 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id pB78pYA6003874; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:51:34 +0100 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.5/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pB78pXG8001223; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:51:33 +0100 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pB78pX9G001222; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:51:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7ohb1dz24a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.3.3 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 134.93.134.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146535 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 06 Dec 2011, Glenn Morris wrote: >> Gentoo will continue distributing the 23.3a tarball, because 23.3b >> would cause increased build times for our users and changes to >> unrelated installed files. > The timestamps in 23.3b are indeed messed up. I was going to suggest > some kind of fix involving touching various files, but frankly it is > probably a whole lot simpler to simply start from the 23.3a tarfile, > and just patch the etc/grammars directory with that from 23.3b, if > you care about having those files. Indeed, we could add the diff between 23.3a and 23.3b (about 65 kB uncompressed) to our patchball. We'd still have to distribute the problematic 23.3a tarball though, and mirror it ourselves, because it's gone from GNU mirrors. It would be too much to hope for a 23.3c tarball with timestamps fixed, I suppose? > Or distribute a separate package emacs23-something that just adds > them to an existing installation. Then zero extra build time! :) Yes, and maximum confusion for users as an added bonus. ;-) Ulrich