From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Change terminology to =?utf-8?Q?better?= =?utf-8?B?IGFsaWduIHVzZXJz4oCZ?= experience with modern GUIs Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:40:18 +0200 Message-ID: <20190723134018.GH27308@tuxteam.de> References: <58E90D68-5CE4-425F-BB5F-07533665ADC0@icloud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rCwQ2Y43eQY6RBgR" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="110745"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 23 15:40:34 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hpv1s-000SbT-2k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:40:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42548 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpv1q-0007ny-WD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:40:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33353) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpv1n-0007nq-8K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:40:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hpv1l-00033y-1y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:40:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:58946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hpv1k-000336-IA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:40:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:Date; bh=LC4wS03xaTW76Npapz8Q6JKZ2Q+JgOfr/DgrJf/2TbU=; b=MYwsgwhMdf51zZZhCe9EHK3KAcBZekblUyY4vUOroc0n3Qiz4isKOaaXlCwCxPusv28BW875GRwJJBey1G0GrfPXl2CZPFWL4PIftsFClyvXnMT85gsAUouXLPCbYzXaqzcaC19K+UKC94OlF5mW70EFkHYEgS6cVl4lumSa/617EWX6TsFe2XmvpdUTfqV51oqER9E6BBCi574IT/sHgZb5KN1jQ1DBextbnpc0QFtyMn8kpjoxd7A+LktL0fd7xVz0oUmEFOx2FF+EJfNTCMRHrizjiPfVfK0u1lJSR3c8WdJgDj7H08LTx35iVjI6fkwHP2p82d91Dp38BLdupw==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hpv1e-0001Rw-Uo; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:40:18 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121238 Archived-At: --rCwQ2Y43eQY6RBgR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:00:03AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] > Yes, we discussed doing such a change a few years back (renaming window > to pane [...] > I think "many years" above can be estimated at about of 10 years [...] And who knows what the "terminology du jour" will be in 10 years. This industry is currently very much fad-driven. So imagine Emacs (painfully) changes window -> pane and frame -> window, and the dominant technology talks about "trays" and "vanes". Or something. Cheers -- t --rCwQ2Y43eQY6RBgR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl03DkIACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbQ/gCeLOA7PngxxXNjmFm6HFq6vOOG qTQAn3Tg6iSgdEAicn0oVDQ+caWQuHmJ =6xVq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rCwQ2Y43eQY6RBgR--