From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Alessi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:33:13 +0200 Message-ID: <20190719133313.GC9882@robertalessi.net> References: <20190718184700.GA4886@robertalessi.net> <20190718203203.GG4886@robertalessi.net> <83tvbiv7dp.fsf@gnu.org> <20190719085824.GA3263@robertalessi.net> <20190719094226.GA5734@robertalessi.net> <83ef2muqv0.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="165054"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36717@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 19 15:34:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hoT1T-000gp8-MU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:34:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45366 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoT1S-00012J-LK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoT1P-000121-G8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoT1O-0006KA-ID for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46588) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoT1O-0006K1-EY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoT1O-0002nt-95 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Robert Alessi Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36717 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36717-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36717.156354319910719 (code B ref 36717); Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36717) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2019 13:33:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55409 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoT0g-0002mp-Jl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:33:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:51006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoT0e-0002mg-Ji for 36717@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:33:16 -0400 Original-Received: from bell.riseup.net (bell-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1004D1A1186; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Riseup-User-ID: 369315B0561CFAA4A3520E2A4E591C520410C8C46CCAA4BDEEA0FAEC3C782C52 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bell.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9C413220065; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163411 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 03:29:53PM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: > >> Q: Which block of Greek characters should I use? > >> > >> A: The answer to that is that it depends what you are doing. But > >> generally, the basic Greek block plus the use of the generic combining > >> marks in the Combining Diacritical Marks block (U+0300..U+036F) is the > >> best approach to polytonic Greek support. > > Eli> To me, the most important part of this is in the very first sentence. > Eli> It is not our business to second-guess "what the user is doing". We > Eli> should just make sure they can produce both variants of the characters > Eli> involved, and let the user decide what they want/need. > > That pleads for us doing nothing, since we have that today (just not > within the same input method). Agreed.