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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:238581 Archived-At: On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 11:37:15PM +0200, Joost Kremers wrote: > >On Sat, Jul 13 2019, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>From: Joost Kremers >>>Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 10:32:14 +0200 >>>Cc: Ergus >>> >>>> we could pretend that tab-width is 1 in Lisp, > perhaps. >>>Or >>>> maybe this feature should just ignore Lisp. >>> >>>I use this feature mainly in Lisp... >> >>Then I guess you are one of those for whom the built-in feature will >>not be good enough, and you will keep using some 3rd party package. > >Just my opinion, but from a user's perspective it might seem rather >strange that a feature that Emacs supports out of the box does *not* >work with Lisp. With any other editor I might think "oh well", but >Emacs *is* Lisp. > > Hi I tend to agree with the fact that Lisp should be specially supported in all the emacs functionalities. But with this minimal support at least there will be something "good enough" for C and all the derived from cc-mode (Java, C++, Ruby, Perl, Lua) plus Python, Latex, Makefiles, Bash, Tcl, SQL, Assembly, Rust. So, many users will be benefited... I think it is still a good deal right?. > > >-- >Joost Kremers >Life has its moments > Ergus