From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [offtopic] Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:07:01 +0200 Message-ID: <20190614070701.GA3313@tuxteam.de> References: <87pnnn4z11.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <877e9uq3qn.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <20190609135046.GA14478@tuxteam.de> <86y329m4oa.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190612092804.GB11865@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="127004"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xavier Maillard Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 14 09:14:55 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hbgQI-000Wqf-67 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:14:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48896 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hbgQF-0002x7-I1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:14:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35259) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hbgPC-000203-7S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:13:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hbgIx-0005pU-1S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:07:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:54192) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hbgIt-0005h7-75 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:07:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=P6oEEJbKa5oYod7UBYD+uYurH6Ma/qVtdkWXxc4JYxM=; b=c1tcPTYbBPb+vNu5jgy/lifkpjExDRq91d1KlyX8VS+Jv0S+Glr5sR3/Aux10s3Xw1p37+O+xRgIMuZC52nOWCWrP6s5wZA9wAli6Qisf5jqlVXxnZsulLEjuRas49s5H0yNHXS89nyp6dzb2xFafQIXsPqKfYkfTCrh69Dszw/fuVWRTVj8ZfKiYfUBsPPpTnTRiIvvUNZ2+jUQyQ3wJUX8RkWLB++j1juQoRZ9/DWbVhem9yyF5BJXLSVTr6uYdwbNifRCziHaWc69+6tv/5jNuobDmTV3vX9nc8Zj2AT0tC4K1KLTH0BprqP8s1cK3gpdDtEWv6tk6plr3R1MyQ==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hbgIf-0000xa-5K; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:07:01 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120945 Archived-At: --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 06:12:22AM +0200, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:28:04 +0200 > > From: [...] > > For one data point: I never buy books from Amazon. Actually I > > never buy anything from Amazon. Ever. >=20 > I was about to answer with that link but I just read it again and it seem= s GNU project opinion has changed since last time >=20 > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html >=20 > In the meantime, Amazon is part of the Big Techs cartel which I won't > support, ever (for many other reasons than free software & patents). >=20 > I am not okay with the fact that GNU is calling to buy from there to get = extra revenues, that sounds wrong to me. +100 In the meantime, I "solve" that problem for me by saying that, whereas GNU are my heroes, I don't have to agree on everything they say or do. And this is one point we disagree on. IMHO, "platforms" are the new "proprietary software". Cheers -- t --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl0DR5UACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbMVgCcCgBGmrkBRI65h/TZ9ZmOShtp r3wAn0B/uYrRc6dV4/abNW6IS93Xzyjw =/YBF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO--