From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Ctrl-[ ? Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:03:20 +0200 Message-ID: <20190608140320.GB4323@tuxteam.de> References: <874l51q0s4.fsf@telefonica.net> <83ef45rdij.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhmto6fa.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190607163017.GA32029@tuxteam.de> <96B116FC-8007-4C42-9AE6-585530D0C76E@comcast.net> <87muisor2h.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190608084404.GB28228@tuxteam.de> <87h890ns41.fsf@telefonica.net> <83pnnonr15.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="4268"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 08 16:04:34 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hZbxR-00010D-Sw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 16:04:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58632 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZbxQ-0002NY-6X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:04:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35146) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZbwM-00028D-MZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:03:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZbwK-0000k4-K8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:03:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:36973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZbwK-0000gA-D2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 10:03:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:Date; bh=RxzIz40AgM3O7XRjN4DeF4XO09MDWZGbz6Mqi9+lPIk=; b=ucdHDAiqNhIpFMs7gWGxtCDSqW+x3mRUFISaP53CoJY4GbPcZfUmUoP6VZ/8MuajUr1T6+JqmlThhxZo8TaVk+5vN6CQDnd9aEfHuDn8ZQHLFoIthRUMnEKRVtc7bOctJLi32BGi4xHIk0ovqNxcZcfOSxw3kV3n7HMGlCzsiXWeijGoAEeaWqzFaAyFT5DpWro1vuMcs383jtuWeutlD4VoSz0JUHwBuZsM/uf/Nuyg5EQyP4Dx6ZRH1SDjSnnlYxgGVem1IasBtOr9LR1PU5i+ZWrCBnSpZbQ2CPz0z9tO7ryHnRGzV5NtZGJID1rwyOOcVFzOq8fB/ieKKkzNnQ==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hZbwG-0001dl-F4; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 16:03:20 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120839 Archived-At: --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 10:54:17PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: >=20 >=20 > > On Jun 8, 2019, at 22:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >=20 > > We have an enormously complex piece of software on > > our hands, and we have no better choice than going the "inconvenient" > > ways when we want to rebind an unusual key. >=20 > In all honesty: >=20 > (define-key input-decode-map "\C-[" [C-left-bracket]) > (define-key global-map [C-left-bracket] 'myfunction) >=20 > is not inconvenient at all. What is inconvenient is the discovery process. Then documentation is the way forward, perhaps? > Knowing what I know about emacs (which is above the casual user) and even= with the willingness to go through the manual, it would have been (it *has= * been) impossible for me to find that solution. >=20 > Now, what I'd love to know is what are the other "unusual" keys, because = as a group, they deserve a few more lines in the manual. A good set of candidates would be all those control characters (the first 31 in man ascii(7)) which are customarily bound to a key (like CTRL-C, aka ETX, CTRL-\, aka FS, and so on). Care to compile a list? Cheers -- tom=C3=A1s --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlz7wCgACgkQBcgs9XrR2kb5MgCfWZ1Bdgj5sHqc+3/YDrK0JbPi fA8AmgKzq/xmcjzZh8NlAzefFBZq9PXl =XQYV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y--