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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:54:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190525115453.GB12528@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86h89jdkqw.fsf_-_@zoho.eu>

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On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 10:03:03AM +0200, Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs wrote:
> tomas wrote:
> 
> >> ?#2: What do you mean "all the anti-patterns
> >> of the pre-Internet age emerge all over
> >> again." It sounds interesting anyway so do
> >> tell...
> >
> > You had a fragmented landscape of "online
> > services" [...]

> Oh, no! That can't happen! I remember years ago
> writing many times about the future all
> interface-independent use of computer services.
> Everyone could use everything, with their own
> client(s) [...]

Facebook bought whatsapp for $16 billion (that is 16 * 10^9 dollars).
How do you think they are going to monetize it? By letting their users
change providers painlessly?

Likewise they bought instagram for $1 billion. They are /betting their
farm/ on closed platforms. What do you think their shareholders think
about e-mail?

There's a huge financial incentive in poisoning the well (aka "open
platforms") to sell bottled water.

Cheers
-- tomás

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-25 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-18 19:40 Google Gmail mailing list bounces Bob Proulx
2019-02-18 20:13 ` Skip Montanaro
2019-02-18 20:56   ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-19  2:23     ` Nate Bass
2019-02-19  7:01       ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-19  2:29     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-02-19  5:23       ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-19  5:36         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-02-19  9:59           ` Stephen Berman
2019-02-20 17:15         ` Eric S Fraga
2019-03-05 19:08           ` Xavier Maillard
2019-02-19 16:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-18 22:01 ` Scott Randby
2019-02-19  3:35   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-19  3:38     ` Kaushal Modi
2019-02-19 15:07     ` Scott Randby
2019-02-19 16:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-19 17:01         ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-19 17:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-20 19:18             ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-20 19:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-20 23:03                 ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-21 14:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-21 14:38                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-21 15:03                       ` Yuri Khan
2019-02-21 15:20                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-22  0:06                           ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-23 10:28                             ` Nate Bass
2019-02-23 19:56                               ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-23 21:05                                 ` Vasilii Kolobkov
2019-02-24  3:45                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-03-05 22:31                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-05 21:25                               ` Ian Kelling
2019-03-05 22:22                               ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-06 17:14                                 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-06 18:51                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-08  1:47                                     ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-13  1:22                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-13  1:47                                         ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-13  2:53                                           ` [DMARC Sucks!] (Was Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) 황병희
2019-03-13  2:57                                           ` Google Gmail mailing list bounces Emanuel Berg
2019-03-19  0:15                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-19  0:46                                         ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-19  1:11                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-19 18:02                                             ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-19 23:35                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-06 17:27                                 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-05-23 14:44                               ` Bastian Beischer
2019-05-23 14:58                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-23 23:19                                   ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  0:00                                     ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-23 23:32                                   ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-23 23:44                                     ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  0:08                                       ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-24  4:09                                         ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  5:36                                         ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  7:09                                           ` tomas
2019-05-24  8:51                                             ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24 12:28                                               ` tomas
2019-05-25  4:40                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-25  6:31                                                   ` tomas
2019-05-25  8:03                                                     ` the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-25 11:54                                                       ` tomas [this message]
2019-05-28  5:21                                                         ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  5:36                                                           ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  6:27                                                             ` Yuri Khan
2019-05-28  8:29                                                               ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  8:39                                                                 ` tomas
2019-05-28  8:56                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  8:59                                                                     ` tomas
2019-05-29 19:32                                                                       ` answer from Zoho (was: Re: the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces)) Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-30  0:00                                                                         ` the future of the computer world (was Re: answer from Zoho) Van L
2019-05-30  2:50                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-30  8:48                                                                         ` answer from Zoho Alberto Luaces
2019-05-30 11:39                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-30 17:24                                                                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-30 17:39                                                                               ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-31  7:43                                                                             ` Alberto Luaces
2019-05-31  7:46                                                                               ` Alberto Luaces
2019-06-05  2:22                                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  8:42                                                                 ` the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Yuri Khan
2019-05-25 15:18                                                       ` the future of the computer world Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28  5:22                                                         ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-25  9:17                                                 ` Google Gmail mailing list bounces Van L
2019-05-25 11:56                                                   ` tomas
2019-05-27 14:14                                                   ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28 12:12                                                     ` Van L
2019-05-28 14:47                                                       ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  9:01                                             ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  0:38                                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-24 18:36                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-23 23:14                                 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-23 23:22                                   ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-23 23:38                                     ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-23 23:46                                       ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-02-19 18:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-19 18:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-19 17:41       ` Alternative mail providers (was: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Amin Bandali
2019-02-20 10:21         ` Alternative mail providers Van L
2019-02-20 15:15           ` Amin Bandali
2019-02-20 22:11             ` [OFF-TOPIC] " Van L
2019-02-20 22:41               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-02-21  6:59                 ` Van L
2019-02-21 10:07                   ` gnus and gpg Van L
2019-02-21 10:33                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-21 12:07                       ` Van L
2019-02-21 12:26                         ` Colin Baxter
2019-02-21  7:50           ` Alternative mail providers mickbert
2019-03-12 13:29         ` 황병희
2019-03-05 21:22 ` Google Gmail mailing list bounces Ian Kelling

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