From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ergus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 15:13:17 +0200 Message-ID: <20190519131317.we7d7od6vy4d67j5@Ergus> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <83v9yb92c7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <86a7fjnwdq.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="152472"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Van L Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 19 15:13:43 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hSLdE-000dUO-DS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 May 2019 15:13:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48680 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSLdD-0001ao-Dl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 May 2019 09:13:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47660) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSLd3-0001aj-T9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2019 09:13:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSLd3-0002c6-0x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2019 09:13:29 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic312-25.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([77.238.178.96]:40286) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSLd2-0002bX-AA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2019 09:13:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1558271605; bh=WrWv4+GV3Ra+wPTDR7T33yBzc345vhCsSqy3DWSk3cI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=L83NrkaPhKOlorPFutUiA/D6czb21BSCrq3O2PJ0XvfYDIk07zYu5rHoKEwm3i3JBFHSp+9ZTH0uHm6HJGa8vp3CH1z4uL19NqB7XnDIei3Cifhwvqdm3wkgDYtfjw9G4oYlin82Ke2vcEZm9uhthhrlFSJ4LAY5/BAuoSyNJyUSLFqUaZQpRVX5bBAV6gDG2vntFyF3Tgapvf70JHK6P8wMWmqlpagFqafeAChuranhdfbUEYgbwPwN9ULkaIIO38xv6ua1X731dkW8Jie8T9wDrh055qhAcBsQrKO8D4MQ/6/kGmFwkaL82g0QGBPUQ5v97oIj5q93Z3q9woh/Ew== X-YMail-OSG: QQvkxekVM1nd1R8vAcUus3qGcud9nuEMkN4T.BrIzKfzK9M7O7aIBft6JoKVX2T unUZ6r600lqSfE3M9i5mJ9oLhT.MrqnDqvsiACbgmFO.cFAt4AiKSFfDafUdvVuiXpZ9Ljke3aSx d35jEuWA4XZMp2sl4f9AWnsNe3a7_AHEopxdCYEEsi2yw4rRi59YF0.gpCEh826uiuQWgJl0RtNh Ze0cVyDoN5ORWFpY0wCwc3iDe0XAVkcZvHNpFhXirjkvEiyWGIgirIyILV2kDKuOKDZL1_CE1Yvq wVxdJl6wot9K_FqcjhmOyexeJ5GXPvG8F_cPMwQUMjf5DPRXwjp7K2RzpJ_8d97ckD4oRIF8UzNz Kyd1qGoWvlSPR3ntvNZBnkQJq9EqrRJKkcWxWYUU5jCZ9Uh7B8qVmHLSRYnfaKkP3011.y67G7ZP snnWNejKAi.WEAVqtVhhKr2EPk.bh4e1JD6LzDXgm5GKdQPO4hf9HHyE8qUP5KYzpMf3BeHIGssB rVT2ThyRoHZp.7mu.N3RiUef0q01b4UfZ9c7tXtEyGPLbny7oZKDvJx.6rgQu8zWzvVCytBRbxPY Nu4hTuAm1PCrbh30I4m0pXeGaUiADxKILUVSbEG9z4cEzwkDMG0d2ZQ8npSa9NqJznyUt5i2wC4N AlQWd2Knzwi3XoIh.eDNBzyPusjcv2Y3M.fQ_rRCnQuUdGFObqTRoxeW4ke6VTmorhdkh592Lu1V lk37c2wUCAtOUN2cyB3O03LQhsqQ1uOrvFVKKmWqDJjsMXwNF_X601MrCNAM40CO0.ZMa0tJbuyO xwm2vcaq27.lvmDVtoku2pkmKbDAGAgNbEON4ARhvQ Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic312.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 May 2019 13:13:25 +0000 Original-Received: from 2.152.205.184.dyn.user.ono.com (EHLO Ergus) ([2.152.205.184]) by smtp409.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID cd5e891ed074551b0a129737f2cbfb29; Sun, 19 May 2019 13:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 77.238.178.96 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120543 Archived-At: On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:48:26PM +1000, Van L wrote: >조성빈 writes: > >> 2019. 5. 19. 오후 5:16, Van L 작성: >> >> For the refined keybindings, Spacemacs can provide a good starting point. > >A bikeshedding of well worn paths of keybinding combinations is required >to justify the new starting point. > Actual spacemacs keybindings are based in mode editing ideas, so we can't use them as they are OOB, but the concepts and ideas they use to organize the bindings are very interesting and intuitive. > >> I would like a semi-AI that suggests interactive functions based on > >Maybe helm or ivy package does that. > >> it isn’t intuitive to find new keybindings/functions that Emacs > >One way is `C-h b' and think differently. > There is which-key. I can't recommend it enough to new users. I knew about it very late (after 2 years or so) but, for starters, the learning curve with it could be way easier. >-- >© 2019 Van L >gpg using EEF2 37E9 3840 0D5D 9183 251E 9830 384E 9683 B835 > "The interface is a nightmare." - Brendan Schaub > >