From: <tomas@tuxteam.de> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: Why is Elisp slow? Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 09:08:36 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20190503070836.GC31083@tuxteam.de> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20190503004416.xfuzzucflp6bxpuz@Ergus> [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1717 bytes --] On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 02:44:16AM +0200, Ergus wrote: > WARNING: This email has plenty of personal opinions. > > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 08:39:43AM +0900, ????????? wrote: > > > >>Probably (I have a dream [...] > >This, very much sounds like Guile Emacs. Anyone knows how Guile Emacs > >is doing????? It???s very much looks like vaporware these days :-( > > Yes, that is the dream (at least the closest we have ever been) > > >Is upstream considering Guile Emacs as a valid solution? > > I made a similar question some time ago and the answer is that there is > not action. :( In fact there is not too much action in > Guile's development . > > Not many projects feel interested in Guile [...] C'm on, folks. Dreaming is OK, but once you wake up, you can try to exercise your search engine skills. Guile is well and alive (the Guilers meet every year at FOSDEM, talk videos seem to be available), Guile's maintainer (Andy Wingo) is doing an excellent job, and one of the more active Guile projects (Guix) has just celebrated its 1.0 release. The official web site is a good starting point: https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/ Ah, and Andy Wingo's blog is also recommended reading: https://wingolog.org As to guile-emacs, there are two things here: first, the project needs hands, it seems. I see four hands out there ;-) Second, not everyone here likes Scheme (and they might be right), so it would need some convincing (be sure to read the Emacs history by Stefan Monnier and Michael Sperber, posted elsewhere in this list). A good starting point on guile-emacs would be https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GuileEmacs So -- lots to do! Cheers -- t [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --]
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2018-10-05 2:15 Optimising Elisp code Davin Pearson
2018-10-05 2:19 ` Davin Pearson
2018-10-05 9:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-05 10:58 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-10-05 10:03 ` tomas
2018-10-05 14:28 ` Barry Margolin
2018-10-05 14:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-05 15:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-05 17:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.1736.1538759161.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-05 17:23 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-05 17:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.1737.1538762057.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-05 18:50 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-05 19:14 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-05 19:17 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-05 19:26 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-05 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.1741.1538768445.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-05 21:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-05 18:04 ` James K. Lowden
2018-10-05 19:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-07 2:57 ` Barry Margolin
2018-10-06 10:45 ` Knowing where a function has been used (e.g. for optimizing) [Was: Re: Optimising Elisp code] Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-06 14:40 ` Optimising Elisp code Stefan Monnier
2018-10-06 16:55 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-06 19:24 ` tomas
2018-10-06 19:55 ` Knowing where a function has been used (bis) [Was: Re: Optimising Elisp code] Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-06 20:27 ` tomas
2018-10-06 21:42 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-07 8:10 ` tomas
2018-10-07 13:56 ` Garreau, Alexandre
[not found] ` <mailman.1787.1538899813.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-07 12:54 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.1775.1538857674.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-07 12:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-07 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.1792.1538918415.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-07 15:59 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-07 16:30 ` Optimising Elisp code [again] Garreau, Alexandre
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2018-10-08 14:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-08 14:43 ` tomas
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2018-10-09 0:38 ` Barry Margolin
2018-10-09 6:26 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-09 8:07 ` Garreau, Alexandre
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2018-10-09 13:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-09 15:03 ` Garreau, Alexandre
[not found] ` <mailman.1911.1539097442.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-09 15:26 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-09 19:35 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-10 16:18 ` Barry Margolin
2018-10-10 20:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-10-10 23:54 ` Garreau, Alexandre
[not found] ` <mailman.1975.1539205047.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-11 18:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-12 19:52 ` Robert Thorpe
2018-10-07 16:10 ` Knowing where a function has been used (bis) [Was: Re: Optimising Elisp code] Emanuel Berg
2018-10-07 16:35 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-07 19:35 ` Barry Margolin
2018-10-08 14:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-08 15:23 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-08 20:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-09 0:41 ` Barry Margolin
2018-10-09 6:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-10 16:24 ` Barry Margolin
2018-10-10 16:32 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-11 19:29 ` Barry Margolin
2018-10-11 20:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-12 22:32 ` Barry Margolin
2018-10-12 23:03 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-10-13 20:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-14 7:55 ` tomas
[not found] ` <mailman.2146.1539503732.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-14 19:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-15 8:25 ` tomas
[not found] ` <mailman.2179.1539591977.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-15 19:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-16 0:55 ` Van L
2018-10-17 0:20 ` Garreau, Alexandre
[not found] ` <mailman.2284.1539735662.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-17 6:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-10 20:50 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2018-10-08 14:14 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-08 15:37 ` Naming, and Gnus functions length [Was: Re: Knowing where a function has been used (bis) [Was: Re: Optimising Elisp code]] Garreau, Alexandre
[not found] ` <mailman.1860.1539013068.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-08 15:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-08 15:52 ` Naming, and Gnus functions length [ Garreau, Alexandre
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2018-10-08 16:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-08 20:03 ` Naming, and Gnus functions length [Was: Re: Knowing where a function has been used (bis) [Was: Re: Optimising Elisp code]] Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1874.1539029031.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-08 20:44 ` Why is Elisp slow? (was: Re: Naming, and Gnus functions length [Was: Re: Knowing where a function has been used (bis) [Was: Re: Optimising Elisp code]]) Emanuel Berg
2018-10-08 23:53 ` Why is Elisp slow? Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-09 12:27 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.1893.1539042845.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-09 6:23 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-09 8:05 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-09 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 4:49 ` Van L
2019-05-02 7:56 ` tomas
2019-05-02 11:06 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-05-02 13:18 ` tomas
2019-05-02 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 19:13 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-05-02 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04 11:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-05-02 20:00 ` tomas
2019-05-04 11:52 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-05-02 19:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-02 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 20:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-02 20:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 21:40 ` Ergus
2019-05-02 23:39 ` 조성빈
2019-05-03 0:44 ` Ergus
2019-05-03 1:06 ` 조성빈
2019-05-03 10:36 ` Ergus
2019-05-03 11:52 ` 조성빈
2019-05-03 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 12:58 ` Ergus
2019-05-03 14:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 22:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-04 13:32 ` Ergus
2019-05-04 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-04 22:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-04 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-04 23:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-05 15:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-06 6:53 ` tomas
2019-05-06 8:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-05 0:12 ` 조성빈
2019-05-05 3:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-05 0:43 ` Ergus
2019-05-05 3:07 ` 조성빈
2019-05-05 15:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-06 7:33 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-05-06 9:03 ` 조성빈
2019-05-06 10:51 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-05-06 12:58 ` Ergus
2019-05-06 13:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-06 16:17 ` Ergus
2019-05-06 17:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-06 17:45 ` 조성빈
2019-05-06 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-06 18:18 ` 조성빈
2019-05-06 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-06 20:23 ` Ergus
2019-05-06 20:41 ` 조성빈
2019-05-06 21:45 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-05-06 22:03 ` Ergus
2019-05-06 23:07 ` Ergus
2019-05-07 10:49 ` Ergus
2019-05-07 11:51 ` 조성빈
2019-05-07 12:38 ` Ergus
2019-05-07 12:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-07 13:01 ` 조성빈
2019-05-07 13:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-07 13:14 ` Ergus
2019-05-07 13:43 ` 조성빈
2019-05-07 14:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-07 14:41 ` Ergus
2019-05-09 9:49 ` Ergus
2019-05-10 3:20 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 4:26 ` Ergus
2019-05-10 4:35 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 8:27 ` tomas
2019-05-07 13:16 ` 조성빈
2019-05-07 13:40 ` Ergus
2019-05-06 20:51 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-07 2:35 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 5:14 ` Van L
2019-05-06 13:18 ` 조성빈
2019-05-06 13:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-06 14:04 ` 조성빈
2019-05-10 7:20 ` Van L
2019-05-10 14:38 ` Lisp, C, and C++ (was: Re: Why is Elisp slow?) Emanuel Berg
2019-05-10 14:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-06 23:39 ` Why is Elisp slow? Emanuel Berg
2019-05-05 5:25 ` Paul W. Rankin
2019-05-05 13:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-05 13:46 ` Ergus
2019-05-06 7:01 ` tomas
2019-05-05 12:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 3:15 ` Van L
2019-05-04 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 12:51 ` Ergus
2019-05-03 13:16 ` 조성빈
2019-05-03 13:32 ` Ergus
2019-05-03 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04 0:32 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-04 11:29 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-05-03 1:45 ` Paul W. Rankin
2019-05-03 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 9:58 ` Ergus
2019-05-03 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 22:18 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-04 13:27 ` Ergus
2019-05-04 13:38 ` 조성빈
2019-05-04 0:33 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-03 7:08 ` tomas [this message]
2019-05-10 13:14 ` Van L
2019-05-10 13:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-05-10 14:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-11 0:38 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-11 1:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-11 2:16 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-11 7:32 ` Is Elisp really that slow? (was: Why is Elisp slow?) tomas
2019-05-11 7:42 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 7:57 ` tomas
2019-05-11 14:30 ` 조성빈
2019-05-11 17:01 ` tomas
2019-05-11 23:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-12 7:54 ` tomas
2019-05-12 8:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-12 9:46 ` 조성빈
2019-05-12 14:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 14:45 ` Is Elisp really that slow? Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-12 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 15:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-12 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 18:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-12 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 1:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-12 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-12 22:22 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-14 13:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-14 15:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-13 0:57 ` Samuel Wales
2019-05-13 12:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 14:23 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-13 14:33 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-14 8:24 ` tomas
2019-05-14 13:21 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-14 14:44 ` tomas
2019-05-15 11:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-15 12:05 ` tomas
2019-05-15 23:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-16 6:48 ` tomas
2019-05-16 9:37 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-16 11:02 ` tomas
2019-05-23 14:23 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-24 1:33 ` Van L
2019-05-16 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-23 14:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-23 14:54 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-23 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-06 5:18 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-16 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-25 4:53 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-13 1:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-13 1:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-12 21:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-13 1:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-13 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 15:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-13 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-14 11:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-14 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-14 17:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-14 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-15 11:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-15 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 23:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-17 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 15:02 ` John Yates
2019-05-13 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-13 22:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-05-14 6:27 ` Paul W. Rankin
2019-05-14 13:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-13 15:42 ` Van L
2019-05-17 15:17 ` Ken Goldman
2019-06-04 1:36 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24 4:28 ` Is Elisp really that slow? (was: Why is Elisp slow?) Xavier Maillard
2019-06-07 19:08 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-06-08 0:26 ` Samuel Wales
2019-06-08 0:30 ` Samuel Wales
2019-06-08 8:52 ` tomas
2019-06-08 21:00 ` Samuel Wales
2019-06-08 21:14 ` tomas
2019-06-08 21:44 ` Is Elisp really that slow? Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-08 23:29 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-06-11 4:10 ` Xavier Maillard
2019-06-09 6:46 ` Is Elisp really that slow? (was: Why is Elisp slow?) Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-11 20:23 ` Samuel Wales
2019-06-08 23:26 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-13 6:10 ` Why is Elisp slow? Van L
2019-05-03 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 2:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-03 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 19:10 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-05-03 23:34 ` Samuel Wales
2019-05-04 6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1772.1538855722.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-07 12:45 ` Knowing where a function has been used (bis) [Was: Re: Optimising Elisp code] Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.1752.1538822765.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-07 12:41 ` Knowing where a function has been used (e.g. for optimizing) " Emanuel Berg
2018-10-07 13:46 ` Getting functions usage examples [Was: Re: Knowing where a function has been used (e.g. for optimizing) [Was: Re: Optimising Elisp code]] Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-08 0:07 ` Van L
2018-10-08 15:40 ` Getting functions usage examples [ Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-09 9:33 ` Van L
[not found] ` <mailman.1798.1538920786.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-07 15:38 ` Getting functions usage examples [Was: Re: Knowing where a function has been used (e.g. for optimizing) [Was: Re: Optimising Elisp code]] Emanuel Berg
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