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From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: esq@lawlist.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fill column indicator functionality
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 20:51:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190315195112.zl4hdnhxl6rxyxco@Ergus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <82dbc0e0-26e2-4137-bd63-127bcbade3c1@default>

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 04:59:16PM +0000, Drew Adams wrote:

Hi Drew:

>(Caveat: I haven't really been following this thread.
>Apologies if I misunderstand the intention or the
>scope, e.g., if this is off topic.)
>
>I guess y'all are trying to come up with the ability
>to have vertical display lines similar to window
>dividers - maybe 1-pixel wide (or configurable as
>N pixels wide?).
>
>Keith is apparently working on such a thing for a
>fake-cursors implementation.  And this thread is
>about using such a thing for indicating the fill
>column.
>

Not really, this patch is a much much simpler solution for a much much
less complex use case.

The fci functionality is in my opinion a very basic code editor
functionality and the solution already available was going to be
unmaintained and had incompatibilities with show-trailing-whitespace.

Eli replied to this a couple of days ago.

Up to now I implemented this to add 1 single vertical line to a
position, the expansion to multiple lines is something possible, but I
don't find a general enough use case that deserves to do so; but if we
find one we can work on that in the future.

I didn't want to over-specify the functionality or produce excessive
overhead in a key place like the display engine. So being a KISS was
part of the intention.

>Do I understand that right?  If so, will the approach
>to doing this be general, so the same implementation
>(in C) can be used for both of these applications?
>

I don't think so; at least not in an easy way. 

>In that case, could it also be used also for vertical
>lines separating table cells and other things.
>
I think that those use cases must be better implemented in elisp as the
use cases will be very specific.

>If so (if we'll have a general feature for such
>support) will there be something similar for
>horizontal lines?

This one is easy, to implement if it is not already; but I don't think
it even requires to go in the display engine. 

>And will we be able to limit
>such lines (start and stop positions), or will

If there is a real use case we can add that functionality, but now it is
not implemented.

>they always be across an entire window?

For now yes.

I hope this answers all your doubts?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-15 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 192+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-15 16:59 Fill column indicator functionality Drew Adams
2019-03-15 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 19:18   ` Drew Adams
2019-03-15 19:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 19:51 ` Ergus [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-05-04 22:51 Keith David Bershatsky
2019-03-18  1:03 Ergus
2019-03-18  3:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-18 11:42   ` Ergus
2019-03-18 17:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-02 12:42       ` Ergus
2019-04-02 13:03         ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-02 13:25           ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-02 13:37           ` Ergus
2019-04-02 15:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-02 15:35               ` Ergus
2019-04-02 15:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-02 16:36                   ` Ergus
2019-04-02 16:48                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-02 17:00                       ` Ergus
2019-04-02 17:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-02 17:48                           ` Ergus
2019-04-02 18:28                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-02 21:22                               ` Ergus
2019-04-03  5:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-03 10:22                                   ` Ergus
2019-04-03 11:11                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05  9:10                                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-04-05 10:36                                         ` Ergus
2019-04-05 11:47                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 12:13                                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-04-05 12:46                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 14:09                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-04-05 14:13                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 14:38                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 15:04                                             ` Ergus
2019-04-05 15:17                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 17:30                                                 ` Ergus
2019-04-05 19:05                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 20:03                                                     ` Ergus
2019-04-05 21:10                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-05 22:01                                                         ` Ergus
2019-04-05 22:20                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-06  6:49                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-06 11:06                                                           ` Ergus
2019-04-06 12:53                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-06  6:51                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-06 13:21                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-06 15:20                                                           ` Ergus
2019-04-06 16:00                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-06 18:59                                                               ` Ergus
2019-04-06 19:07                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-06 19:51                                                                   ` Ergus
2019-04-07 18:19                                                                   ` Ergus
2019-04-07 18:31                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-07 18:35                                                                       ` Ergus
2019-04-07 18:38                                                                       ` Ergus
2019-04-07 19:02                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-07 20:05                                                                           ` Ergus
2019-04-08  2:27                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-08  8:51                                                                               ` Ergus
2019-04-08 14:57                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-08 16:04                                                                                   ` Ergus
2019-04-12 13:46                                                                                   ` Ergus
2019-04-12 13:54                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-01 11:08                                                                                       ` Ergus
2019-05-03 13:19                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 14:14                                                                                           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-03 15:10                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 15:25                                                                                               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-03 16:21                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 16:18                                                                                             ` Ergus
2019-05-03 17:49                                                                                           ` Ergus
2019-05-03 18:32                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 18:39                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 21:05                                                                                               ` Ergus
2019-05-04  6:54                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04  9:37                                                                                                   ` Ergus
2019-05-04 11:04                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04 11:29                                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-05-04 15:44                                                                                                         ` Alp Aker
2019-05-04 15:59                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04 16:32                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04 16:32                                                                                                             ` Alp Aker
2019-05-04 16:36                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04 16:38                                                                                                                 ` Alp Aker
2019-05-04 16:42                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-05 14:40                                                                                                                     ` Ergus
2019-05-04 16:42                                                                                                             ` Ergus
2019-05-03 14:34                                                                                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-03 15:31                                                                                         ` Alp Aker
2019-04-07 20:51                                                                           ` Ergus
2019-04-07 21:23                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-07 21:37                                                                               ` Ergus
2019-04-07 21:39                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-05 13:06                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 15:28                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 18:11                                               ` Ergus
2019-04-05 19:03                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 21:15                                                   ` Ergus
2019-04-06 10:13                                                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-04-06 12:54                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 11:44                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 12:09                                           ` Robert Pluim
2019-04-05 12:44                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 13:21                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-05 13:47                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-04-05 14:08                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-04-03 12:13                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-02 23:11                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-02 17:01                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-04-02 17:26                       ` Ergus
2019-04-02 17:50                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-05 10:53 Ergus
2019-02-05 16:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-05 18:47   ` Ergus
2019-02-05 19:56     ` Drew Adams
2019-02-05 23:32       ` Ergus
2019-02-06 16:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-06 20:48       ` John Yates
2019-02-06 22:25         ` Ergus
2019-02-07  1:41           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-02-07 14:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-10 22:04               ` Ergus
2019-02-11 15:55                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-11 16:56                   ` Jimmy Aguilar Mena
2019-02-11 17:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-08 18:57                       ` Ergus
2019-03-08 20:06                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-09 13:22                           ` Ergus
2019-03-09 14:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-11 10:48                               ` Ergus
2019-03-11 15:30                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-11 19:58                                   ` Andy Moreton
2019-03-11 20:24                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-12 15:29                                   ` Ergus
2019-03-12 16:19                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-12 19:20                                       ` Ergus
2019-03-13 16:19                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-13 20:02                                           ` Ergus
2019-03-13 20:09                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-14  3:02                                               ` Ergus
2019-03-14  6:40                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-14 16:51                                                   ` Ergus
2019-03-14 17:59                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-03-14 18:22                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                       ` <20190314211313.giyz7p6jtmquabea@Ergus>
     [not found]                                                         ` <83bm2c1smi.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-03-15 20:56                                                           ` Ergus
2019-03-15 22:52                                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-03-15 23:22                                                               ` Ergus
2019-03-15 23:47                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-03-16  6:50                                                                   ` Ergus
2019-03-16  7:48                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-16  7:42                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-16 12:26                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-17 17:28                                                               ` Alp Aker
2019-03-17 18:03                                                                 ` Ergus
2019-03-17 18:40                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-16  9:36                                                           ` Ergus
2019-03-16 12:40                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-14 21:28                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-03-14 23:54                                                       ` Ergus
2019-03-14 18:58                                                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-15  7:30                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 12:44                                                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-15 14:07                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-03-15 14:54                                                           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-15 15:15                                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-03-15 15:30                                                               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-15 14:12                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 14:35                                                           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-15 16:13                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 18:26                                                               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-15 19:14                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 15:13                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-15 13:00                                                       ` Alp Aker
2019-03-15 13:30                                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-03-15 14:24                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 15:05                                                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-03-15 15:54                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 15:09                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-15 15:56                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 13:54                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 14:19                                                           ` Alp Aker
2019-03-15 14:58                                                             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-16 15:07                                                               ` Johan Bockgård
2019-03-16 15:22                                                                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-15 15:43                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-15 17:24                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-03-15 18:28                                                                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-15 14:35                                                           ` Alp Aker
2019-03-09 18:02                             ` John Yates
2019-03-09 18:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii

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