From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:06:02 -0700 Message-ID: <20190221170259478078146@bob.proulx.com> References: <83lg2bivne.fsf@gnu.org> <20190219095700191526550@bob.proulx.com> <83d0nnit0o.fsf@gnu.org> <20190220115853855643126@bob.proulx.com> <83imxegskr.fsf@gnu.org> <20190220152455054511191@bob.proulx.com> <835ztdgr10.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="37359"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 01:14:47 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gwyUI-0009cA-NR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 01:14:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41587 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gwyUH-0004Lp-Er for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:14:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40076) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gwyU2-0004FV-LJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:14:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gwyM1-0006vO-EN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:06:14 -0500 Original-Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:46124) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gwyM1-0006gv-3O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:06:13 -0500 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2022C8 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:06:03 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F133D21174 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:06:02 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E83B62DC7C; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:06:02 -0700 (MST) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 96.88.95.61 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119517 Archived-At: Robert Pluim wrote: > Yuri Khan writes: > > This might mean *some* of the list messages bounce, and that is enough > > to push my score over the threshold. Unfortunately I do not know how > > to get details on which messages bounced and what the server said. > > Yes, that info is on the list admin side. So this is all conjecture. And unfortunately Mailman doesn't provide a way to access those bounces either. I can't see. I have no idea what has bounced. There has been a few suggestions behind the scenes about how we might be able to hack something in to be able to see some visibility into what is getting bounced. We will probably implement something in order to have even an imperfect view of what is happening. But up until now and up until something is hacked in there isn't any visbility in a stock Mailman installation. Bob