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From: Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:23:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190218221442658318052@bob.proulx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3DB6E7C5-35E0-4EA4-B952-B6D56E4DCA3B@gmail.com>

Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> There may be laziness, but also a lot of discoverability and basic
> knowledge issues. I don't think most modern mail users know that
> unsubscribe information is given in the list mail header.

Not having grown up with it people now arriving on the scene and using
it are using the mailers that have been marketed to them.  They now
have no idea how mail works.  It all might as well be magic to them.
If it truly were magic there would be no difference to them.

> Also, in "modern" mail clients there is no practical way to see that
> information (why would people want to check the source of a message?)
> 
> But I do understand this comment is slightly besides the point. :)

I keep thinking that people will see how bad the Gmail/Outlook
interface to mail is and will leave them to use better ones.  IIRC
they don't even show you the email address of the user!  Insanity!  I
would never tolerate that in a mail client.  And as you can see I
haven't ever because I am not using them.  But I know that a *LOT* of
people use them but I am astounded that they do.  There truly is no
hope for the human race. :-(

Bob



  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-19  5:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-18 19:40 Google Gmail mailing list bounces Bob Proulx
2019-02-18 20:13 ` Skip Montanaro
2019-02-18 20:56   ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-19  2:23     ` Nate Bass
2019-02-19  7:01       ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-19  2:29     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-02-19  5:23       ` Bob Proulx [this message]
2019-02-19  5:36         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-02-19  9:59           ` Stephen Berman
2019-02-20 17:15         ` Eric S Fraga
2019-03-05 19:08           ` Xavier Maillard
2019-02-19 16:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-18 22:01 ` Scott Randby
2019-02-19  3:35   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-19  3:38     ` Kaushal Modi
2019-02-19 15:07     ` Scott Randby
2019-02-19 16:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-19 17:01         ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-19 17:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-20 19:18             ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-20 19:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-20 23:03                 ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-21 14:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-21 14:38                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-21 15:03                       ` Yuri Khan
2019-02-21 15:20                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-22  0:06                           ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-23 10:28                             ` Nate Bass
2019-02-23 19:56                               ` Bob Proulx
2019-02-23 21:05                                 ` Vasilii Kolobkov
2019-02-24  3:45                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-03-05 22:31                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-05 21:25                               ` Ian Kelling
2019-03-05 22:22                               ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-06 17:14                                 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-06 18:51                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-08  1:47                                     ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-13  1:22                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-13  1:47                                         ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-13  2:53                                           ` [DMARC Sucks!] (Was Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) 황병희
2019-03-13  2:57                                           ` Google Gmail mailing list bounces Emanuel Berg
2019-03-19  0:15                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-19  0:46                                         ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-19  1:11                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-19 18:02                                             ` Ralph Seichter
2019-03-19 23:35                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2019-03-06 17:27                                 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-05-23 14:44                               ` Bastian Beischer
2019-05-23 14:58                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-23 23:19                                   ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  0:00                                     ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-23 23:32                                   ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-23 23:44                                     ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  0:08                                       ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-24  4:09                                         ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  5:36                                         ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  7:09                                           ` tomas
2019-05-24  8:51                                             ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24 12:28                                               ` tomas
2019-05-25  4:40                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-25  6:31                                                   ` tomas
2019-05-25  8:03                                                     ` the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-25 11:54                                                       ` tomas
2019-05-28  5:21                                                         ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  5:36                                                           ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  6:27                                                             ` Yuri Khan
2019-05-28  8:29                                                               ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  8:39                                                                 ` tomas
2019-05-28  8:56                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  8:59                                                                     ` tomas
2019-05-29 19:32                                                                       ` answer from Zoho (was: Re: the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces)) Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-30  0:00                                                                         ` the future of the computer world (was Re: answer from Zoho) Van L
2019-05-30  2:50                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-30  8:48                                                                         ` answer from Zoho Alberto Luaces
2019-05-30 11:39                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-30 17:24                                                                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-30 17:39                                                                               ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-31  7:43                                                                             ` Alberto Luaces
2019-05-31  7:46                                                                               ` Alberto Luaces
2019-06-05  2:22                                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28  8:42                                                                 ` the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Yuri Khan
2019-05-25 15:18                                                       ` the future of the computer world Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28  5:22                                                         ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-25  9:17                                                 ` Google Gmail mailing list bounces Van L
2019-05-25 11:56                                                   ` tomas
2019-05-27 14:14                                                   ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-28 12:12                                                     ` Van L
2019-05-28 14:47                                                       ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  9:01                                             ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-24  0:38                                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-24 18:36                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-23 23:14                                 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-23 23:22                                   ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-05-23 23:38                                     ` Bob Proulx
2019-05-23 23:46                                       ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-02-19 18:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-19 18:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-19 17:41       ` Alternative mail providers (was: Google Gmail mailing list bounces) Amin Bandali
2019-02-20 10:21         ` Alternative mail providers Van L
2019-02-20 15:15           ` Amin Bandali
2019-02-20 22:11             ` [OFF-TOPIC] " Van L
2019-02-20 22:41               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-02-21  6:59                 ` Van L
2019-02-21 10:07                   ` gnus and gpg Van L
2019-02-21 10:33                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-02-21 12:07                       ` Van L
2019-02-21 12:26                         ` Colin Baxter
2019-02-21  7:50           ` Alternative mail providers mickbert
2019-03-12 13:29         ` 황병희
2019-03-05 21:22 ` Google Gmail mailing list bounces Ian Kelling

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