From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: 1L? Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:11:59 +0100 Message-ID: <20190210081159.GA9342@tuxteam.de> References: <86lg2r7ggb.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190208092717.GA4663@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="248055"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 10 09:12:44 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gskEB-0012Mb-Lb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:12:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56290 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gskEA-0006tU-Js for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 03:12:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59790) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gskDi-0006tP-Lb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 03:12:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gskDg-0004zj-Dj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 03:12:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:50524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gskDf-0004xO-TH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 03:12:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=ugQerDB2+sIu4D8wXNulfXvkad5CWLNxzM7Bxpqdz10=; b=U2HB5yH++Jrzx+K5vvSmTIcpfG6DJc3OKm85Q8SfmKZwqFkCs4BHGq2d5xS8SN74dPblPwygaBRNqdckcIUSxnX2qJoCC0akerPyN74rqFrnotNlc9gS0ot/H5Q598Q1amlkdffrzb53HoDLQjLdM0wK78y4I+qotb/nRvJFkjXau2twglsEM7jyAMNd0vdD8PgbpzmqvPKAK77VBM8n5vvFvSqKUzSGn69+qIOPZJIbyOBdpuTAm7GjrthvSLt7zCAt56unLZIozD/lSKBuA0uSnUgHcpxDqCwCV6ofkoiYQV4yXY1DBSsPXpTYHS8KutA8y+O5KFbxIFpZ5mEgVg==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1gskDX-0002VQ-Kb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:11:59 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119309 Archived-At: --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 05:34:33PM +1100, Van L wrote: > tomas writes: >=20 > > > > That said, the Emacs docs /are/ available for Debianites, under > > the non-free section. Where's the problem? >=20 > There's less of a problem if GNU/Emacs > can discover the documentation is > missing and describes the 'non-free' > steps to follow. I don't use Debian :-) Perhaps that's the problem ;-P > Maybe GnuSense doesn't have the problem > at all. >=20 > >> On NetBSD the Emacs package is difficult, cross referencing to the C > >> source code is too hard. > > > > What do you mean by that? > > >=20 > If I look up the documentation for > 'eval' function, it says >=20 > eval is a built-in function in =E2=80=98C source code=E2=80=99. >=20 > I get a dialog box on clicking the > 'C source code'. >=20 > I list the contents installed and find > there's no src/ directory provided by > the NetBSD pkg_add installer. This would be a problem/bug in the NetBSD packaging. I'd complain to them. > MacPorts also does not provide the > src/ directory in the emacs-mac-app, > emacs-devel packages. I've little experience with Mac. > Previously, when I was building GNU/Emacs directly > from src the click on 'C source code' just worked. That's what I still do. It still works. [...] > How should the .emacs file be structured > to simultaneously work with 26 and 27's > M-x customize? I can't help you there, since this involves the intricacies of packaging. I build from source (since for Emacs, I /want/ bleeding edge; otherwise I'm infinitely grateful that there's Debian and all those great maintainers!). As you already noted, it Just Works(TM). It is the package's maintainer's job to keep this functionality alive in the packaged version, isn't it? If I were you, I'd file a bug report with NetBSD. 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