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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: Re: Doc of keyboard macros
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 20:03:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180924200357.GA9502@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k1naadtf.fsf@gnu.org>

Hello, Eli.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 22:35:40 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
> > Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 22:23:03 +0300

> > There is a current tendency towards deprecating F1-F10 function keys
> > by hardware manufacturers.  These keys are already hard to press by default
> > on PC: a special additional key <Fn> needs to be pressed in combination of
> > <Fn>-<F3>, and a Chromebook has no row of function keys at all: in order
> > to get <F4>, you have to press <Search>-4.

> Those are still faster than "C-x (", since they are a single key
> combination, whereas "C-x (" is 2 key combinations.

I don't think the speed (or otherwise) of C-x ( compared with F3 is
important.  After one of these, the user is going to be slowly and
carefully typing in a sequence of key sequences, not wanting to make
mistakes and having to start again.

I would prefer to keep C-x ( and C-x ), because I use F3 and F4 for
other things (in particular, switching to frames F3 and F4).  C-x
<paren> also feels more mnemonic than F3 and F4.

Sorry if this is opening up an old debate which was settled long ago,
and I somehow missed.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-24 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-24 14:47 Doc of keyboard macros Stefan Monnier
2018-09-24 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-24 15:51   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-24 16:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-24 16:50       ` Andreas Schwab
2018-09-24 17:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-24 19:00         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-24 19:23         ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-24 19:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-24 20:03             ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2018-09-24 20:17             ` Joost Kremers
2018-10-10 20:25               ` Mathias Dahl
2018-10-14  8:28                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-10-14 14:33                   ` Yuri Khan
2018-10-15 20:22                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-16  1:05                       ` Van L
2018-09-24 20:06           ` Drew Adams
2018-09-24 20:22         ` Filipp Gunbin

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