From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 10:02:17 +0200 Message-ID: <20180909080217.GA6746@tuxteam.de> References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <20180907190135.GA9827@tuxteam.de> <20180907202847.GA12884@tuxteam.de> <8736uj61f0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536480859 15978 195.159.176.226 (9 Sep 2018 08:14:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 08:14:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 09 10:14:15 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fyurG-00043B-Jq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 10:14:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46445 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyutN-0000WC-35 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 04:16:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42117) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyusX-0000Tw-CD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 04:15:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyufp-0002n5-Io for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 04:02:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:57874) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyufp-0002Xr-8e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 04:02:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=V0H7gKvy3vsN4eva+UXY5wqev9f7c5BNodSi1jlZIkw=; b=DpGndhqtHKyWg2NFYXDWzyySo9KdELkF7U4yJUs0yuossbrizo1p/ciE2yeObGSErpANUgK2v5IoPxtnVwrjI33g88q0ujCyjORxy5606xa/9I3Lr963sgo8xwgIu6eRccE19ma7Tl5IYLccXYYu6wA75S3zThXPefnIYzTgehAloq/jv5wPO9nB+JqikwAcmGNF4X/ETzVNifIugSgFkvgb/raiFYxdx2RcowYsgQt+2D+l9lhOs7gBbH5GELZwLwcDjsXQ08vH7X3TkIIQptcvNdSFloJCiZpOkelqjZ5erv9kyTflrCOxxQ8YhyeNVv9RUKgACkWLPKlKd4/e8A==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1fyufh-0001pq-Mb; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 10:02:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8736uj61f0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229552 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 02:19:31AM +0300, Juri Linkov wrote: > >> IMHO, this is only about that specific difference. I doubt > >> that you will find meaningful alignment/correlation between > >> views on that question and other views, including other views > >> about editing or Emacs. > > > > I guess there's some alignment. I always feel awkward when > > editing in a browser, for example. It reminds me fatally > > of Notepad, back then. And it's not just selection handling. > > > > But hey, everyone swings differently. > > To me, delete-selection-mode is an optimization, it saves keystrokes > allowing to type less [...] What most people saying "_my_ way is better" tend to forget is context: you've adapted your micro workflow to your tools and viceversa. So if you say "it saves keystrokes", this is from the (very limited) perspective of *your* context. People preferring "the other" toolset will have planned the whole thing differently, they'll use selection in subtly different ways, etc. etc. All generalizations suck. Cheers - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAluU04kACgkQBcgs9XrR2kblDACeKFWoDz3wAx0UTMgzdjEcgDTJ j+gAoIBif240c76e4v0L+QLfyTpW8ADP =/xWu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----