From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default (WAS: Some developement questions) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 22:28:47 +0200 Message-ID: <20180907202847.GA12884@tuxteam.de> References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <20180907190135.GA9827@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536352018 11526 195.159.176.226 (7 Sep 2018 20:26:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 20:26:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 22:26:54 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fyNLB-0002uq-O1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 22:26:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40150 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyNNI-00017W-6j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:29:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39886) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyNN7-00016O-9u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:28:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyNN4-0003UZ-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:28:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:53534) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyNN4-0003JX-78 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:28:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=2/OPA5tV5V2SQxrp02Tzt8sw6aWRaP+RZct0uDn4mSo=; b=FSC++uv2XgD8q+YmwlulXYDvdikaY9wXR2fo9zLh/wS/oeyrHvF48sd8CtawRVqTnTOtxP6ni7oGq2sirKMoWdvqdhmpwLPySWIHEbtdr7na+Kj9gdoHCVPhblYD52GIQ1FECc1jpNUOi4Sbu6oyzOeHXrpSjj6t0brxRvtAH5bMND/YlajP5lIQRq9jtlSiF4//8tBqsi3bKNIMz9aPZkoU5kEK80z55zSpCV8SZt4T7QzxbFvS/853qptBaKgooaYqBAx5w7B+tFD+wXpmWW+bjO9wDLYaYy3ZRVWilJ6FNmnCej4eUJuWY+u91YY0Q1LZ0sbmj6wKgohbVNMDpg==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1fyNN2-0003SW-6E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 22:28:48 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229451 Archived-At: --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 12:23:07PM -0700, Drew Adams wrote: > > Typical case of "two cultures", I guess. >=20 > Really? What two cultures are those? >=20 > Different default values of `delete-selection-mode'? > Or are you trying to suggest some wider difference > that is indicated/reflected by that difference? I think you are reading too much into what I wrote, but I'm not sure. > IMHO, this is only about that specific difference. I doubt > that you will find meaningful alignment/correlation between > views on that question and other views, including other views > about editing or Emacs. I guess there's some alignment. I always feel awkward when editing in a browser, for example. It reminds me fatally of Notepad, back then. And it's not just selection handling. But hey, everyone swings differently. > I wouldn't advise generalizing this to include pro/con > mouse, menus, key bindings, GUI, visual lines, fonts, OS,... I think it's more subtle, but somehow related, yes. Cheers -- t --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAluS338ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kY00QCdFfsEVp6J7tgAT9U74/zcjdZV 1HAAnjq9y+cCSV58YKLTcJc5XF6FwHJC =PEV7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C--