From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Feature Discuss] Nested buffer Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 16:54:18 +0000 Message-ID: <20180724165418.GA8629@ACM> References: <878t61ww39.fsf@posteo.net> <79a90a0a-4ed4-9b41-25fb-744cb72fc9b8@gmail.com> <19151eff43b77d7548828a8ed98c160e@webmail.orcon.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1532452488 28978 195.159.176.226 (24 Jul 2018 17:14:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:14:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cl=E9ment?= Pit-Claudel , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phil Sainty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 19:14:44 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fi0tX-0007T6-SB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 19:14:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41663 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fi0ve-0002w0-MI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:16:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46471) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fi0n7-0004f7-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fi0n4-00023n-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:47275 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fi0n3-000229-TB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 83129 invoked by uid 3782); 24 Jul 2018 17:07:59 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p5B146AD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.20.106.216]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 19:07:58 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 8634 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Jul 2018 16:54:18 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19151eff43b77d7548828a8ed98c160e@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227776 Archived-At: Hello, Phil. On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:15:20 +1200, Phil Sainty wrote: > On 2018-07-24 08:31, Clément Pit-Claudel wrote: > > I think anything that was covered by the islands proposals > That sprang to my mind too. What is the current state of the > "islands" work? Is it still just a discussion, or is there > code as well? Neither, really. :-( I still think it is a sound proposal, but the amount of work involved in implementing it would be so immense that it would take a team of three to six people to do it. It would certainly be beyond my abilities to do on my own. My feeling, when the topic was under discussion, was that the requisite enthusiasm and commitment wasn't there. To be honest, that would be expecting rather a lot. A project of that size would inevitably involve coordination, and other project management things, like agreeing on interfaces, and possibly having deadlines and such. There's no experience of anything like this in the Emacs project, at least, not that I'm aware of. So I don't think that the "islands" proposal is going to get implemented. Which is a pity. [ .... ] > -Phil -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).