From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Perry E. Metzger" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 16:46:55 -0400 Message-ID: <20180705164655.71e3c523@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> References: <20180705093346.071e6970@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83wou9n66t.fsf@gnu.org> <20180705112920.076265d5@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r2khms1j.fsf@gnu.org> <895f8d54-aa4b-a735-19ac-2ffde88b61eb@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530823560 3524 195.159.176.226 (5 Jul 2018 20:46:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 20:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, wyuenho@gmail.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 05 22:45:55 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbB8V-0000nw-B4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 22:45:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54773 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbBAc-0005aY-KF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 16:48:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55653) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbB9X-0005Zs-49 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 16:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbB9W-0006oY-Dj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 16:46:59 -0400 Original-Received: from hacklheber.piermont.com ([2001:470:30:84:e276:63ff:fe62:3400]:33618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbB9U-0006n3-W7; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 16:46:57 -0400 Original-Received: from snark.cb.piermont.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hacklheber.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03B4217; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 16:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from jabberwock.cb.piermont.com (jabberwock.cb.piermont.com [10.160.2.107]) by snark.cb.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D462DEE55; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 16:46:55 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <895f8d54-aa4b-a735-19ac-2ffde88b61eb@cs.ucla.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2001:470:30:84:e276:63ff:fe62:3400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226977 Archived-At: On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 12:26:47 -0700 Paul Eggert wrote: > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Emacs is not a Web browser, we have different priorities. So the > > solutions need not be the same. > > Quite true. However, when Emacs is used to browse the web there's a > powerful argument to model its security practices on those of other > web browsers. A lot of practical experience has gone into the > Firefox and Chrome security models, and it would be much, much more > efficient for us Emacs developers to reuse those wheels instead of > reinventing them. Exactly. -- Perry E. Metzger perry@piermont.com