From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [Rmail] Fighting spam Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 06:37:26 +0200 Organization: GNU's NOT Unix! Message-ID: <201806050437.w554bQIr018935@localhost.localdomain> References: <8736y947rw.fsf@maillard.im> <20180604111209301834037@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1528173363 8171 195.159.176.226 (5 Jun 2018 04:36:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 04:36:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Rmail on GNU Emacs/27.0.50 (27.0.50) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Bob Proulx Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 05 06:35:59 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fQ3hO-0001zb-MG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 06:35:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43420 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQ3jU-0003iG-3y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 00:38:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56890) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQ3iz-0003hy-8Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 00:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQ3iw-0000NA-5T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 00:37:37 -0400 Original-Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:37293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQ3iv-0000MN-VP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 00:37:34 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (129.38.136.77.rev.sfr.net [77.136.38.129]) (Authenticated sender: xavier@maillard.im) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8450C200005; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 06:37:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w554bSR9018936; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 06:37:28 +0200 Original-Received: (from xavier@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w554bQIr018935; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 06:37:26 +0200 In-reply-to: <20180604111209301834037@bob.proulx.com> (message from Bob Proulx on Mon, 4 Jun 2018 11:19:22 -0600) Jabber-ID: xavier@maillard.im X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.232 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116962 Archived-At: Hello Bob, > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 11:19:22 -0600 > From: Bob Proulx > > Xavier Maillard wrote: > > with latest Rmail development, what is the simplest method to protect > > myself agaisnt spam ? THere are a few messages that are auto-magicallly > > labeled with a « spam » keyword but I can't find why it happens :) > > > > I need a way ton instruct this protector with other material to get him > > even better. > > IIRC the Rmail rules are able to classify the reading and display of > both non-spam and spam messages but is not a spam classification > engine itself. For that you would probably look to using SpamAssassin > or another spam classification engine such as BogoFilter or other or > some combination of all of the above. I am currently using a pipeline > through bogofilter and spamassassin. However even better is to avoid > receiving the spam in the first place by using a DNSBL such as the Xen > list from Spamhaus. Best is combined arms tactics using a combination > of available techniques. Got it. I am not getting that much spam these days but having some tools and techniques to fight it when a spam wave comes by may be useful. > You didn't say how email is getting delivered to your system. For a couple of years I was geting to my mail through IMAP servers but I was not satisfied having my e-mails stored and synced on every devices I was using. I have now switched back to POP and a sole copy on 1 computer and only 1. I have defined `rmail-primary-inbox-alist' to '("po:..."). There is no other tool in the workflow (I got rid of fetchmail/getmail, procmail and the like). Regards -- Xavier Maillard e/j:xavier@maillard.im w:www.maillard.im m: 06 52 18 63 43 GPG: 9983 DCA1 1FAC 8DA7 653A F9AA BA49 09B7 8F04 DE1B