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From: Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@ntlworld.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is there a way to "asciify" a string?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 23:52:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180531235207.7e65aa35@JRWUBU2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1408913120.160961.1527779327833@webmail.appsuite.proximus.be>

On Thu, 31 May 2018 17:08:47 +0200 (CEST)
"S. Champailler" <schampaillerspam@skynet.be> wrote:

> I second that, removing accents and other "nationalities" is much
> trickier than one might expect (you can look at Java example, the
> Java unicode support is quite complete), especially for lanugages far
> away from english such as russian. By "tricky" I mean there are
> *hundreds* of edge cases. Nevertheless, there are ways do sort of do
> what you want by playing with thigsn such as "non spacing combining
> characters", "normalized strings", etc. If you have the opportunity,
> just try to do it, the great lesson you'lll get of that is that human
> languages are super complexe (and thus super interesting).

Make sure you transliterate the string first.  Remember that stripping
out Indic vowels (many of which are gc=Mn) is no more reasonable than
stripping out ASCII vowels.

> Today, everyone should use Unicode, it's much simpler. Many file
> systems support unicode.

But be warned that some very different strings may compare equal.  The
Unicode Collation algorithm is highly likely *not* to be the default.
Windows XP used to compare strings of Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics of
the same length as equal.  I remember using sort -u to remove duplicates
from a list of words on a Linux distribution, and finding that I only
had one left. I now play safe and do that sort of trick in the C locale.

Richard.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-31 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-27  6:22 Is there a way to "asciify" a string? Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-27  7:36 ` tomas
2018-05-27 12:36   ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-27 12:52     ` Teemu Likonen
2018-05-27 16:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-27 16:59         ` Teemu Likonen
2018-05-28  5:24           ` Tak Kunihiro
2018-05-30 10:12           ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-30 17:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-30 19:38               ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-27 20:00         ` tomas
2018-05-28 18:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-29  6:37             ` tomas
2018-05-27 13:04     ` Yuri Khan
2018-05-30 10:14       ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-30 11:51         ` Yuri Khan
2018-05-30 15:04           ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-31  2:03       ` John Mastro
2018-06-02 18:07         ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-02 18:48           ` tomas
2018-06-07 17:16             ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-02 22:33           ` Drew Adams
2018-06-07 17:15             ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-02 18:12         ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-27 19:53     ` tomas
2018-05-28  8:15     ` Philipp Stephani
2018-05-28 10:28       ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-28 10:39         ` tomas
2018-05-28 15:30           ` Yuri Khan
2018-05-28 16:02             ` tomas
2018-05-30 10:12           ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-31 14:23     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-31 15:08       ` S. Champailler
2018-05-31 22:52         ` Richard Wordingham [this message]
2018-05-31 15:42       ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-05-31 15:53         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-31 16:20           ` Yuri Khan
2018-05-31 19:03           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]       ` <mailman.871.1527781438.1292.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-05-31 23:23         ` James K. Lowden
2018-06-01  2:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-01  7:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-27 14:55 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-05-27 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii

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