From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31415: 27.0.50; Strange behavior on Command-$ in MacOS Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 19:52:21 +0100 Message-ID: <20180515185221.GC27909@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: <20180513102810.GD15823@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <83sh6vlhk8.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1526410266 5984 195.159.176.226 (15 May 2018 18:51:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 18:51:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.3 (2018-01-21) Cc: john.b.mastro@gmail.com, 31415@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 15 20:51:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fIf2K-0001Qw-GD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 20:51:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54366 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fIf4R-0008PM-NT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33559) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fIf4K-0008Or-TW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:53:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fIf4I-00034S-6E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:53:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56347) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fIf4I-00034M-1Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fIf4H-0000wE-NY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:53:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Third Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 18:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31415 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31415-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31415.15264103523571 (code B ref 31415); Tue, 15 May 2018 18:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31415) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 May 2018 18:52:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36011 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fIf3n-0000vX-Q4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:52:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-f43.google.com ([74.125.82.43]:35971) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fIf3l-0000vK-V8 for 31415@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:52:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-f43.google.com with SMTP id n10-v6so3033095wmc.1 for <31415@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 15 May 2018 11:52:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=ZuptfeD3SNwd8TC/I/6XgEXflx3BlBryOpuTeJWpZD8=; b=Dp8Kr0U5zvhjX319qNU+Mstttn3pB50Xggw0ZA45lI+r9gQvDq6+5n13fq8pFza/Ay tnAIFugkm8Sqrh9F7lb9BeZ3ZPuhp3Shs+RCIHEf7IlBqLAfpMQR+qZKEifmoSAPTv2L 6owaflueC6xdM4cap2mKrf4qGRJEH5YWJ2hSy4YorNXzaTzdWCU4kQcZz2GSmMp1HQO2 YAvltc6gusHGJPVtffOisU+kkb/e13Oc+6mVfSYJehvc4AIlqQw/Th8zwldQZ45YN4eM BhSJS0XdQo+gFxddrrLVYUIj0ugKgrQwFsQ7uofwT45yY+Rxd3RJsqoUTG4AFX516x94 MWMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ZuptfeD3SNwd8TC/I/6XgEXflx3BlBryOpuTeJWpZD8=; b=itqytlSUVpbaGjWoP2QedEgQqMYfSi4KEyLLTc5F3pcPIPfSCU6yVmqYFXMPNNV0S6 HKjDynOtoyx9erHuL3YaB4ZwdQeO5CMpcakqVz7te+cf3pi3pBZ1XIA2SkNC2R91QoEm 368SbHgRr5N8gYHspzl1ZqXnMSVkDz4K28Cf82IYyhycpIYn3mgTrcgyMeV3EaMg+AZ2 czxlwLDtxuL9xtciL7OSeP+/RDRBHWZAIJbkmpPeqmTH2pShmB8O8094YB5T3V8ohVFe dUnQhtXGATEoewSPiM3FwdHsTm12xd88EHlqhQpWHHbbFgxScKDymdwoGwkXsePPnuie LtFw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdWE73vouAyupvo0twNDawSgcjqfk9d8r3pK+R1n6ZavWBAedIQ HhQN8XsBG0nALOv3n6i2fKQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZotkQz3VNs4tEPrUnlrLq8nGVCxL6G+XV9yJdKgYYGDZ/FKvb0Az97JhJx75NK5eK6+0O6LBg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:8444:: with SMTP id g65-v6mr9778383wmd.114.1526410344123; Tue, 15 May 2018 11:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from breton.holly.idiocy.org (ip6-2001-08b0-03f8-8129-3195-ed66-b02d-6c9f.holly.idiocy.org. [2001:8b0:3f8:8129:3195:ed66:b02d:6c9f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4-v6sm1400211wmg.40.2018.05.15.11.52.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 May 2018 11:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83sh6vlhk8.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:146203 Archived-At: On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 06:08:07PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 13 May 2018 11:28:10 +0100 > > From: Alan Third > > Cc: 31415@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Hmm, what’s happening is that macOS is going into a screenshot mode. > > You can see the shortcuts in system preferences ‐> keyboard ‐> > > shortcuts. I don’t know why you’ve not seen this before as I think > > it’s been the default in macOS for quite a while now. > > > > I don’t know if we can over‐ride this, and I don’t know that we’d want > > to. > > If this cannot (or shouldn't) be fixed, how about mentioning it in the > manual? There are a lot of default shortcuts, and they’re almost all customisable. It might be worth adding some text about how changing the behaviour of the modifier keys in Emacs doesn’t change their effect in macOS. But I think that bit of the manual, modifier keys (macOS), could do with being rewritten. It’s slightly misleading and doesn’t mention the ns-command-modifier variables at all. -- Alan Third