From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should this package be included into the NS port? 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[2001:8b0:3f8:8129:3195:ed66:b02d:6c9f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g127-v6sm1117020wmf.42.2018.05.15.11.36.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 May 2018 11:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225317 Archived-At: On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 02:25:30PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Ryan C. Thompson's package is licensed under the GPLv3 so I suppose that > > it could be included into the NS port if he signs the copyright > > paperwork. It may also need a bit more firming-up before heading into > > the mainline, but I think it's pretty solid as-is. > > The Gtk port has a somewhat similar hack in the C code to avoid closing > the display (to try and delay the infamous multi-display Gtk bug). > > So I think it might make sense to add such a workaround for this OSX bug > much more directly in the core (rather than via defadvice). It might be worth investigating exactly why the NS port can’t open a new frame in this situation, but I’ve not got round to it yet. It seems rather strange to me. -- Alan Third