From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Johnson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ESC vs Meta for shifted keys Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:30:18 -0800 Organization: AkWebsoft Message-ID: <20180415003018.GC31322@mail.akwebsoft.com> References: <86tvsiaoe3.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523752157 32377 195.159.176.226 (15 Apr 2018 00:29:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:29:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 15 02:29:12 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7VXc-0008Jc-8X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 02:29:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50416 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f7VZi-0001dm-Sj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:31:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57051) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f7VZ4-0001cu-Lv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f7VZ0-0003kT-NP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:30:42 -0400 Original-Received: from tjohnson.mtaonline.net ([64.4.232.191]:40924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f7VZ0-0003UO-EV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:30:38 -0400 Original-Received: by linus (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2B5B224001D; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:30:18 -0800 (AKDT) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86tvsiaoe3.fsf@zoho.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 64.4.232.191 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116513 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg [180410 10:59]: > Does anyone use the actual ESC key instead of > Meta ("Alt" or whatever the keyboard > manufacturer puts on the key) these days? I use the ESC key instead of the Alt key in many, but not all cases of key combinations. I have some ergonomic issues with hands and fingers. Often, using ESC cuts down on stretching. > I've heard, and seen picture of how the > keyboards once looked, and then it made more > sense to use it. > > Perhaps those keyboards didn't have the arrow > keys, and that's why it doesn't work :) > > Monnier knows what to Google Image to find such > a keyboard image. If he does, I promise not to > lose it :$ > > -- > underground experts united > http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 -- Tim Johnson http://www.akwebsoft.com, http://www.tj49.com