From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ESC vs Meta for shifted keys Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:40:09 -0600 Message-ID: <20180410173330857633433@bob.proulx.com> References: <86tvsiaoe3.fsf@zoho.com> <20180410171734910036965@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523403522 5505 195.159.176.226 (10 Apr 2018 23:38:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 23:38:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 11 01:38:38 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f62qT-0001JA-U8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 01:38:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56372 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f62sX-0003MN-W0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:40:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48106) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f62s3-0003Kj-Ml for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:40:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f62rz-00022d-O8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:40:15 -0400 Original-Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:45931) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f62rz-00022H-Cw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:40:11 -0400 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E6E260D for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:40:09 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC9F21888 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:40:09 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8ACEA2DC74; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:40:09 -0600 (MDT) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180410171734910036965@bob.proulx.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 96.88.95.61 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116453 Archived-At: Bob Proulx wrote: > https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/lear-siegler-adm3a-terminal-keyboard-t11780.html > > Compare the arrow keys on the h, j, k, l on the ADM-3a to the ... I will also add to this to look at the position of the control key. That is the position where I got used to it being. When IBM came out with their keyboard and put capslock there it was a tragedy! This is why I remap capslock to control and find it hard to use control in any other position. I am rather happy with the other changes such as Return and so forth though. (shrug) In the ADM-3a one also sees the relationship between HOME and ~ too. It was really quite the trend setter. :-) https://jbcrawford.us/history/computers/adm3a Bob