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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: info-find-source
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:14:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180113121439.GC19072@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k1wm0y0y.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 01:59:57PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:36:33 +0100
> > From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
> > 
> > Yes, Eli, "breadcrumbs" are there, as in "where am I, relative to
> > root", but not so much as in "how on Earth I arrived here".
> 
> Does 'L' do what you want?  (Note: upper-case L.)

This one is nice, thank you!

(it's like receiving an unexpected Christmas present)

> And breadcrumbs are not only a way of telling where you are in the
> tree, it is also a means of jumping several levels up in one go, by
> clicking on them.

Yes, I guessed that (but the keybindings on Info are so quick that
for us keyboard junkies, a quick thrice-u does it).

I was rather trying to understand and interpret Emanuel's unease,
and to think more philosophically about the Emacs whereabouts.

And yes, in some ways, Emacs and the landscape around is sometimes
lacking in discoverability. This is somewhat of a paradox, since
Emacs is at the same time the most discoverable software I know
of (and has ever been), but there you go.

To be fair, it has done impressive strides the last ~10 years in
this department.

Cheers
- -- tomás
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-13 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-10  5:51 info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-11  4:49 ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found] ` <mailman.7190.1515646194.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-11  5:25   ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-11 21:05     ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7233.1515704724.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-11 21:55       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-12 15:43         ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-12 17:02           ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]         ` <mailman.7274.1515771852.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-12 20:36           ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-12 21:08             ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
     [not found]             ` <mailman.7300.1515791309.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-12 21:24               ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-12 22:39                 ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.7303.1515796800.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-13  0:54                   ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13  3:29                     ` info-find-source Kaushal Modi
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.7311.1515814177.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-13  3:55                       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13 14:16                         ` info-find-source Kaushal Modi
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.7327.1515852984.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  7:20                           ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13  7:46                     ` info-find-source tomas
2018-01-13  8:10                       ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13  8:22                         ` info-find-source Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 11:36                           ` info-find-source tomas
2018-01-13 11:59                             ` info-find-source Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 12:14                               ` tomas [this message]
2018-01-13 15:33                                 ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 14:20                         ` info-find-source Kaushal Modi
2018-01-13 15:30                           ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 16:31                       ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.7318.1515831047.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  7:17                         ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:42                           ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.7430.1516041756.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:38                             ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13 15:47                     ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-13 16:04                       ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 21:33                         ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-14  0:52                           ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-14  1:18                             ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-14  6:55                           ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-14  9:12                             ` info-find-source tomas
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.7360.1515891194.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  2:03                             ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.7334.1515859458.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  0:47                         ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15  0:57                           ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:53                             ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.7434.1516042427.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:51                               ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:48                           ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.7432.1516042138.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:46                             ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-16 13:45                               ` info-find-source Stefan Monnier
2018-01-16 15:28                                 ` info-find-source tomas
2018-01-16 19:59                                 ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-17  0:13                               ` info-find-source Robert Thorpe
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.7460.1516110343.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-17  2:41                                 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.7331.1515858482.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  8:42                       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-12 23:57             ` info-find-source Robert Thorpe
     [not found] <mailman.7307.1515801433.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-13  0:43 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found]   ` <(message>
     [not found]     ` <from>
     [not found]       ` <Emanuel>
     [not found]         ` <Berg>
     [not found]           ` <on>
     [not found]             ` <Sat>
     [not found]               ` <13>
     [not found]                 ` <Jan>
     [not found]                   ` <2018>
     [not found]                     ` <01:43:01>
2018-01-13  3:43   ` info-find-source Robert Thorpe
2018-01-13  5:23     ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 16:31       ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-14  7:03         ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-16 23:10           ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-13 15:50     ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7314.1515821013.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  2:57       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-14  7:00         ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]         ` <mailman.7369.1515913231.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  4:17           ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:54             ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]             ` <mailman.7435.1516042498.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:55               ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-16 23:58                 ` info-find-source Robert Thorpe
2018-01-19  6:22                 ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.7609.1516342943.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-19  7:12                   ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-19 20:31                     ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-19 21:05                       ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.7653.1516395915.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-19 22:19                         ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-19 23:21                           ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.7656.1516404112.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-20 19:49                             ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-20 20:18                               ` info-find-source Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <<83bmhos2qd.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-01-20 23:50                                 ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-21  0:04                               ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.7695.1516493072.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-21 11:49                                 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.7650.1516393881.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-19 20:43                       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13  5:17   ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]   ` <mailman.7313.1515820700.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  2:54     ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:52       ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]       ` <mailman.7433.1516042345.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:50         ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found] <mailman.7312.1515815030.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-13  3:57 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-14  4:24 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-14 22:30   ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-15  4:33     ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-20 17:37       ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-21  6:59         ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]       ` <mailman.7682.1516469829.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-20 17:53         ` info-find-source HASM
2018-01-20 18:26           ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7401.1515990861.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  7:45       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 14:26     ` info-find-source Stefan Monnier
2018-01-20 17:00       ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-20 17:29         ` info-find-source Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <mailman.7394.1515969041.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  4:31     ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found] <mailman.7487.1516147103.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-17  6:18 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg

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