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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: want a file format easily edited and read by emacs that allows (multiple) pictures to be included
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 12:39:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171205113935.GI22742@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86indlbeqm.fsf@zoho.com>

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On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 12:23:13PM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Eric S Fraga wrote:
> 
> > I sometimes have the need to create
> > a self-contained document for sharing with
> > others. Using the little snippet of elisp
> > that Marcin posted allows me to do so quite
> > easily. Previously, I would need to create
> > a tar/zip file with all the images. Very nice
> > solution for my requirements.
> 
> The "all in an Emacs buffer" is appealing but
> the Achille's Heel is that an Emacs buffer,
> compared to a PDF document or HTML website, is
> a cup from which only a select few dare
> drink...

*This* is actually the one interesting point. That
said, even Github (the horrors!) understands Org
syntax. The syntax itself has a few downsides, IMHO,
but it is way cleaner than Markdown with its ugly
HTML escape hatch.

> As for me, it feels like all the wonders
> I create already have a minimal audience.
> To a huge part, this is a human, not technology
> problem. But I don't want to put up even more
> palisades. Besides, I have no problem with
> LaTeX or HTML. So I always want to use the
> biggest thing which still is to my liking.
> So far, that has meant small enough things as
> it is...

The point is that LaTeX (and HTML) are, as
actually used, in a different point in space,
much more concerned with appearance and less
with structure. At least for LaTeX, you might
argue that you can choose that yourself, because
the *mechanism* of abstraction is there, but
success has been modest. As to HTML... a format
mainly in the hands of the W3C (club of the
richest Internet consortia), oh, well. I prefer
to treat that one as write-only.

There's a place for more content-oriented, more
easily editable, more plain-texty language.

And these are Markdown, Python's reStructuredText,
Perl's POD, and many other lightweight markup
languages [1] among which... org comes with a
built-in powerful editor we all love :-)

Cheers

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_markup_language
- -- tomás
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-05 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-02  8:02 want a file format easily edited and read by emacs that allows (multiple) pictures to be included Dan Hitt
2017-12-02 13:06 ` Daian YUE
2017-12-02 20:31   ` Dan Hitt
2017-12-02 21:08     ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-02 22:47       ` Dan Hitt
2017-12-03 10:10         ` tomas
2017-12-03 19:17           ` Dan Hitt
2017-12-03 20:56             ` tomas
2017-12-04 10:02       ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-04 11:28         ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05  5:11           ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-05  5:56             ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-06 19:29               ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]               ` <mailman.5249.1512588581.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07  1:26                 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07  6:27                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-07  2:06                 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07  2:55                   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07  4:53                   ` Rusi
2017-12-07  5:14                     ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07  5:20                       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07  7:17                   ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.5273.1512631037.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07 11:35                     ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07 13:05                       ` Rusi
2017-12-07 13:59                       ` Eric S Fraga
2017-12-07 14:52                         ` Joost Kremers
2017-12-07 15:04                           ` Eric S Fraga
2017-12-07 15:18                             ` Yuri Khan
2017-12-08  9:26                               ` Eric S Fraga
2017-12-08 19:37                                 ` Dan Hitt
2017-12-09 10:20                                   ` Eric S Fraga
2017-12-09 14:03                                     ` Kaushal Modi
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.5390.1512814836.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-09 19:04                                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.5287.1512659955.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07 18:31                               ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07 18:50                                 ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.5293.1512672682.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07 19:07                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07 19:19                                     ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.5295.1512674421.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07 21:23                                       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.5286.1512659071.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07 19:02                             ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-08  9:23                               ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.5284.1512658429.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07 18:26                           ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07 19:04                             ` Joost Kremers
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.5294.1512673483.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07 19:29                               ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07 18:43                           ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-04 20:35         ` Dan Hitt
2017-12-04 21:21           ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-04 21:52             ` tomas
2017-12-04 22:00               ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-04 22:12                 ` tomas
2017-12-05  4:13                   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05  8:08                     ` tomas
2017-12-05  8:36                       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05  8:53                         ` tomas
2017-12-05  9:48                           ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 10:03                             ` tomas
2017-12-05 11:31                               ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 11:51                                 ` tomas
2017-12-05 13:44                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 14:00                                     ` tomas
2017-12-05 19:58                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 16:05                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-05 20:08                                       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.5155.1512474685.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-05 11:59                                   ` Rusi
2017-12-05 15:49                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.5149.1512468235.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-05 11:29                               ` Rusi
2017-12-05 11:36                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 14:49                                   ` Kevin Buchs
2017-12-05 19:53                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 23:44                                     ` Dan Hitt
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.5203.1512517474.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-06  3:38                                       ` Rusi
2017-12-06  5:28                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-06  9:23                                           ` Rusi
2017-12-06  9:40                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-06 16:54                                               ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]                                               ` <mailman.5229.1512579276.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07  1:21                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-07  2:33                                             ` Dan Hitt
     [not found]                                             ` <mailman.5267.1512614019.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-07  4:57                                               ` Rusi
2017-12-09  5:25                                               ` Rusi
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.5167.1512485401.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-05 15:08                                     ` Rusi
2017-12-05 15:47                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-05 19:55                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 15:45                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-05 19:53                               ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05  9:56                     ` Eric S Fraga
2017-12-05 11:23                       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 11:39                         ` tomas [this message]
2017-12-05 12:19                         ` Eric S Fraga
2017-12-05 13:32                           ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 13:38                             ` tomas
2017-12-05 13:53                               ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05 14:09                                 ` tomas
2017-12-05 20:11                                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.5165.1512482981.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-06  3:37                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-06  5:55                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-06  9:03                                       ` tomas
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.5213.1512550993.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-06  9:43                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-06 10:04                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-06 13:14                                           ` Rusi
2017-12-07  1:37                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-06 16:54                                           ` Eric S Fraga
2017-12-05 14:42                               ` Yuri Khan
2017-12-05 15:30                                 ` tomas
2017-12-05 15:50                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-05 19:04                             ` Eric S Fraga
2017-12-05  5:09             ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-12-05  5:53               ` Emanuel Berg
2017-12-05  5:08           ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]   ` <mailman.4985.1512246680.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-12-03  1:24     ` Dan Espen
2017-12-03  4:58       ` Dan Hitt

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