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From: "James K. Lowden" <jklowden@speakeasy.net>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: return first element in list with certain property
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 22:52:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171121225216.17011915608ecbb6021c9bc2@speakeasy.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.4260.1511289435.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 19:37:01 +0100
Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:

> Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Please consider Knuth's statement about premature optimization.
> > Until your users have actually complained about the speed of your
> > product and you have benchmarked it and isolated cl-find-if as the
> > culprit, there's no need to micro-optimize. Presumably cl-find-if
> > has performed two iterations for years or decades without anybody
> > being bothered enough to improve it.
> 
> Not only that.  Seems the second iteration is at least ~50 times
> faster than the first one (using `elt' that is much faster than a
> loop), so it doesn't matter anyway.  If your program is slow, the
> second iteration will never be the culprit.

Not only that.  ;-)   Traversing the list twice is still O(n).  

I would guess in elisp the typical list is on the order of a dozen
elements.  As Rob Pike says,"Fancy algorithms are slow for small N, and
N is almost always small."  

 No matter how long the list is, it traversing it twice will only take
at most twice as long.  If your design fails when your data size
doubles, you have problems emacs won't solve.  

--jkl


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-22  3:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-19 20:43 return first element in list with certain property Emanuel Berg
2017-11-19 20:51 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-19 21:37 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-11-19 22:55   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-20 18:51     ` John Mastro
2017-11-20 19:21       ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-20 21:20         ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-20 21:40           ` John Mastro
2017-11-20 22:19           ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-20 20:52       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-20 20:12   ` Drew Adams
2017-11-20 20:49     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-20 21:16       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-20 22:02         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-21  1:54           ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-21  2:18             ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-21 17:34               ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-21 20:10                 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-21 21:33                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-22 21:30                     ` Nicolas Petton
2017-11-22 21:31                   ` Nicolas Petton
2017-11-21 18:01             ` Philipp Stephani
2017-11-21 18:37               ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-21 19:26               ` Drew Adams
2017-11-21 20:17                 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-21 20:47                   ` Drew Adams
2017-11-21 20:14               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]               ` <mailman.4260.1511289435.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-22  3:52                 ` James K. Lowden [this message]
2017-11-22  5:04                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-22 14:06                   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-22 14:52                   ` Rusi
2017-11-22 21:28             ` Nicolas Petton
2017-11-23  0:56               ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-23  1:17                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-23  1:30                   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-25  2:57                 ` John Mastro
2017-11-25  3:54                   ` Robert Thorpe
2017-11-25  4:44                     ` Alexis
2017-11-25  7:10                     ` tomas
2017-11-25 17:11                       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-25  7:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-25  8:03                       ` tomas
2017-11-25 19:00                     ` John Mastro
2017-11-25 19:45                       ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-27  3:44                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-20 22:59         ` Drew Adams
2017-11-21  1:50           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found] ` <mailman.4093.1511127491.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-03-06  0:31   ` Robert L.
2018-03-06  8:53     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-03-06  9:29       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found] <mailman.4086.1511124258.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-19 21:19 ` Marco Wahl
2017-11-19 22:51   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-21  4:00   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-19 21:20 ` Marco Wahl

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