From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: prompt to create non existent directory. Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 11:57:21 +0100 Message-ID: <20171102105721.GD27253@tuxteam.de> References: <4278608a-d510-46f5-9cdc-3033a2edecbf@googlegroups.com> <20171027201031.GD29934@tuxteam.de> <86k1zgmcf1.fsf@zoho.com> <20171028070135.GA21162@tuxteam.de> <86fu9xm2uf.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1509620301 12635 195.159.176.226 (2 Nov 2017 10:58:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 10:58:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 02 11:58:15 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eADCN-0002Cx-Ba for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2017 11:58:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59607 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eADCR-0004gT-8j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2017 06:58:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58766) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eADBn-0004dn-7l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2017 06:57:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eADBj-00037g-Ve for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2017 06:57:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:51266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eADBj-0002zS-Ld for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2017 06:57:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=20171004; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=0KBx6zmbXwXh3h3OJtgugrP/dzdERJabLMVel6tGH/E=; b=WLbUzk8YLyutqHtk1POhrEb9M0lkr/a2TY7HKkmkAEVC6YlgugEEP5brvC4pyruRfZWUG8EN/BR1ZwLcmLfskpkDPB/Str8FlEA5OrZYrQyw8/sAlPJyMMNxvUJ+uIbJxZGALMC/D2kPkl8Mw9UJx3TouQ+8AuloUtFjHjKYej2aP1xx9ZJWXr9T3NcAPLCYujJcTMv6Xwp2y7RbItf1mW6J87HQ08julmjMmFfQXvcU4KNJvaiaMxtHOe3+BVWoz5LzrOIKVaJbc3fV4zIQBKMfeTxaQKvWh+IH0k+Qqk1xcVBLUVXm1vOMdRrXO3BRX5ujpzkUu4B8lVHCkAWwhw==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1eADBZ-00006S-J8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2017 11:57:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86fu9xm2uf.fsf@zoho.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114724 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 10:44:56AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > t wrote: > > > I for one *hate* those softwares which go > > rampant on their own upgrade schedule and > > very much prefer the distro doing this. > > I trust[1] e.g. Debian much more than some > > random app (esp. a web browser). > > The alternative is Windows, or the bunch > > o'apps on your smartphone (I haven't one). > > Thanks, but no thanks. > > It is not like that. They don't do anything > unless spoken to. Some. Some don't -- unless you first dive into config and say "don't". [...] > Actually, I wouldn't mind > > M-x upgrade-emacs > > and be prompted what version! tomas@trotzki:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | wc -l 724 I don't want "M-x upgrade-foo" on all of those (and this is a pretty fresh box -- two days since install, with no desktop environment. It'll grow over the next couple of weeks). Of those 724 apps, most of them are in the "let Debian do what it does best" regime, and I want them to stay this way. I only keep track of ~10 applications I know personally. I don't *want* the browser to be in this class, but it keeps pushing itself into the foreground like a disgusting spoiled kid. Just as an example. An application requiring special attention should be the user's choice. So an "auto-update" thingmajig should be a possibility, and working well with the distro should be the baseline. Applications which don't behave this way only get into my box when I really have to. And I end up hating them. (Emacs, btw. is a stellar example. Don't care about latest and greatest? Fine. Distro does a perfect job. Do care? Also fine, go ahead.) Cheers - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAln6+hEACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaB5gCfbIpTJNYneCSDKaqr51SSQoqI t2cAnRBhSu8yUrivEsrsH5DULINevqL+ =pugB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----