From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Modify text appearance (put spaces after commas just for display) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 12:34:22 +0200 Message-ID: <20170929103422.GF15026@tuxteam.de> References: <20170926093255.GD1556@tuxteam.de> <86wp4l22du.fsf@zoho.com> <874lrnt64x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <20170928120955.GB11874@tuxteam.de> <867ewi22sb.fsf@zoho.com> <20170928171840.GC21363@tuxteam.de> <86vak2ypir.fsf@zoho.com> <20170929071901.GA15026@tuxteam.de> <86mv5dzu6z.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506681363 4401 195.159.176.226 (29 Sep 2017 10:36:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:36:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 29 12:35:58 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxse9-0000Ii-Ni for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 12:35:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34583 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxseF-0006KR-HO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:35:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44642) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxscn-0005e3-IC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:34:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxscj-00053l-Fk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:34:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:47654 helo=tomasium.tuxteam.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxscj-00053R-9x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:34:25 -0400 Original-Received: from tomas by tomasium.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dxscg-0005m0-GV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 12:34:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86mv5dzu6z.fsf@zoho.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114464 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:16:04PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomás wrote: > > > I guess I should be more precise, then. I was > > using "read" in some "literate" sense, as > > I would read a text. Wha I'd do with this > > kind of code would be more "decipher". I is > > a much more deliberate (and painful) process. > > Yes, I understand :) Why do people think > I don't understand all the time? Third time > this thread! > > Now yes, at this point it would be decipher but > if you started using that language it would be > reading and writing like any code. After some period of training. Perhaps. But then... perhaps not. This is one point where we might differ. I have the hunch that there are some fundamental differences between people which somehow shine through to what kind of language and culture they gravitate to. Oversimplified, there are the Java types and the Lisp types, or the Python types and the Perl types (note that those two last languages are pretty similar, which at first sight makes this rift the more paradoxical, but the language cultures are utterly different), or the Eclipse types, the vi types and the Emacs types. If my hunch is correct, then there's no "right" language and religion wars over that are just a waste of time. Get along and be nice to each other and ponies and flowers and all that. And keep in mind that saying "one must not write programs in C" [1], to some, sounds like "you don't exist", which is a terrible insult. > Or well, not exactly like "any" code, because > having code like that isn't healthy. It is > un-ergonomic for the brain as well as the body. See? That's where we disagree on. Easy to learn isn't always the same as easy to use, And then (my hunch, at least), for whom. Cheers [1] "C", dear reader, should be read as a placeholder, of course. What did you think? - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlnOIa4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbGkwCfUiti9ijYCaf2hd5yB2WCT6NA TycAnApj7GnOkCzhTS2uRlA6CtAwYOCf =X0RC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----