From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 26.1 release branch created Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:54:47 +0000 Message-ID: <20170921205447.GA8240@ACM> References: <83377mls4d.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919173511.GA19168@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506027757 18960 195.159.176.226 (21 Sep 2017 21:02:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:02:37 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) Cc: Richard Stallman To: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 21 23:02:29 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dv8c8-0004De-CD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:02:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55513 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv8cD-0005wL-RD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:02:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57683) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv8bd-0005vy-8W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:01:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv8bZ-0000Ut-7d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:01:57 -0400 Original-Received: from ocolin.muc.de ([193.149.48.4]:13116 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dv8bZ-0000PH-1T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:01:53 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 79293 invoked by uid 3782); 21 Sep 2017 21:01:47 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548C68CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.140.104.205]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:01:46 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 8284 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Sep 2017 20:54:47 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 193.149.48.4 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218661 Archived-At: Hello, John On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:30:35 -0700, John Wiegley wrote: > >>>>> Alan Mackenzie writes: > > Can we please have a user option in Emacs 26 to disable curly quote > > translation in messages and doc strings? I am (more than) willing to > > implement and document this, and could do so quickly. > Hi Alan, can you prepare this patch for us, including additions to NEWS and > the manual? I'd like to get it into the emacs-26 branch soonish. Eli and I > discussed offline, and while it's still technically premature, I have a strong > wish to see it happen anyway. Thanks for this! I have pushed a first draught into the new branch scratch/customize-quotes. Comments would be welcome. One thing which I hope isn't too controversial, is that I have redefined the value of nil in text-quoting-style to mean "no translation of quotes" and introduced t to mean "prefer curved quotes", the meaning nil previously had. The default value for text-quoting-style remains "prefer curved quotes". My reasoning here was that having nil meaning "do nothing" is intrinsically the Right Thing. Also very few people, if any, will already have explicitly set the variable to nil. And in any case, the use of the variable was restricted to experts, all of whom will be able to adapt to the new nil and t without difficulty. @Richard: I have described the fact that translation of ASCII quote characters takes place on the page "Text Display" in the Emacs manual, as you suggested. > -- > John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F > http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).