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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New hook before-region-change-functions wanted
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 07:37:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170910073729.GA3588@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1dqsEN-0006We-Vm@fencepost.gnu.org>

Hello, Richard.

On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 22:44:19 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
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>   > > That kind of hook is pandora's box.  It is too powerful, and would
>   > > interact in complex ways.  There will be many cases that are hard to
>   > > implement correctly, or cause trouble.  To implement this probably
>   > > means future hassles for ourselves and for package developers.

>   > I actually implemented it, and it worked as intended.

> I think you mean it works as intended in your use case.  I am talking
> about something else.

Note I said "implemented", not "have implemented" and "worked", not
"works" - eveything in the past tense, not the present.

> My experience says that this kind of feature is likely to fail in
> various peculiar cases, which would make it a maintenance burden.
> Also, it is likely to show show strange confusing behavior which would
> lead to trouble in debugging.  We are better off without it.

I accept this, though not without some regret.  I am no longer pressing
ahead with this hook.

> The other approach has the virtue of being entirely internal.  It will
> not require an announcement, or adding to the Lisp manual.

Yes.  This other approach is slightly more difficult to debug with, but
not unreasonably so.

Again, thanks for interfering, here.  :-)

> -- 
> Dr Richard Stallman
> President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
> Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
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-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-10  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-08 14:46 New hook before-region-change-functions wanted Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-08 15:07 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-08 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-08 15:12   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-08 20:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-09 13:46   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-08 22:22 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-09  8:33   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-10  2:44     ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-10  7:37       ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2017-09-11  1:17         ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-11 16:45           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-12 15:46       ` Andreas Röhler
2017-09-09 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-10 18:53   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-10 22:21     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-10 23:02       ` Drew Adams

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