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[2001:8b0:3f8:8129:38a3:b7bd:bb2f:3561]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m196sm8881676wma.17.2017.07.25.10.56.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 25 Jul 2017 10:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:134984 Archived-At: On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 04:53:02PM -0400, Glenn Morris wrote: > FWIW, a comment from someone who is disinterested in OS X: > > You could probably make your life easier by not supporting more > than Apple does. Eg on the net I read: > > Apple is only supporting Mac OS X 10.9 – 10.11. Apple stopped > providing security updates for Mac OS 10.8 and earlier versions with > the release of Mac OS X 10.11 (El Capitan) in 2015. It would make life a lot easier, we could get rid of almost all version dependent code. Just dropping support for 10.6 would remove a lot too. I doubt Charles would like that, though, and he’s the only other person regularly working on the NS port. -- Alan Third