From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Native display of line numbers Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 19:38:38 +0000 Message-ID: <20170619193838.GB3187@acm> References: <83lgoqzm0v.fsf@gnu.org> <20170619183945.GA3187@acm> <83o9tjwzdi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1497901229 5013 195.159.176.226 (19 Jun 2017 19:40:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 19:40:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 19 21:40:21 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dN2X7-0000qO-3u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:40:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44082 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dN2XC-0003Wz-BA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:40:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58590) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dN2Wc-0003Ws-2n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:39:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dN2WY-0003S4-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:39:50 -0400 Original-Received: from ocolin.muc.de ([193.149.48.4]:57681 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dN2WX-0003RK-VZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:39:46 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 36957 invoked by uid 3782); 19 Jun 2017 19:39:44 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548C669F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.140.102.159]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:39:44 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3742 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Jun 2017 19:38:39 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83o9tjwzdi.fsf@gnu.org> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 193.149.48.4 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215793 Archived-At: Hello, Eli. On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 22:28:41 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 18:39:45 +0000 > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > From: Alan Mackenzie > > There's one other thing which surprises me, and apologies if somebody > > else has already mentioned it and I've missed that post. At least on a > > Linux tty, one character position is "wasted" to the left of the line > > numbers. Just about everything else I use in this tty environment, > > including the command line, and the emacs master, starts with the first > > character of a line bang up against the edge of the screen. So why is > > this extra space put in? > The reason is explained in the comments. In a nutshell, it's a cheaty > solution for a problem for which I couldn't find a better one. If I > ever will, the extra space will go away. OK. > (I'm surprised that someone could be sensitive to one less column with > today's large screens, especially after giving up several columns for > the numbers.) My screen is 240 characters wide. Split that into three follow-mode windows, and those windows are 79, 79, 80 wide. With much code being "a bit less than 80" wide, that extra space might make for quite a few more continued lines. The extra space at the rim of the monitor does kind of stand out rather, though. > > Might this be a case for a user option? > No, sorry. OK. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).