From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: docstrings and elisp reference Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 20:14:23 +0000 Message-ID: <20170617201423.GB2955@acm.fritz.box> References: <0BB64F35-233A-471F-B99F-51F96C4E6CCB@gmail.com> <8360g99n07.fsf@gnu.org> <86lgp4q2xa.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <13fd66c8-b22b-5b87-bd8c-34dbe0c7ec38@yandex.ru> <3d5a1ca0-645f-421f-8044-f344c586705d@default> <0d081c78-3e64-4cc3-afdd-471b49f21f24@yandex.ru> <83r2yw8iyu.fsf@gnu.org> <8241d6cf-0902-5f3b-9060-8bb445c02fed@yandex.ru> <20170617130435.GA2955@acm.fritz.box> <9da1fc4f-1916-7d29-b9de-2ed265a9cf9a@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1497730545 12570 195.159.176.226 (17 Jun 2017 20:15:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 20:15:45 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 17 22:15:37 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dMK88-0002pN-Kk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 22:15:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36163 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dMK8D-0004Hq-OK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 16:15:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dMK87-0004HS-Mv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 16:15:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dMK85-0000Q2-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 16:15:35 -0400 Original-Received: from ocolin.muc.de ([193.149.48.4]:21260 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dMK84-0000OW-SS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 16:15:33 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 23625 invoked by uid 3782); 17 Jun 2017 20:15:30 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548C72DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.140.114.219]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 22:15:28 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 23670 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Jun 2017 20:14:23 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9da1fc4f-1916-7d29-b9de-2ed265a9cf9a@yandex.ru> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 193.149.48.4 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215714 Archived-At: Hello, Dmitry. On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 16:55:27 +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 6/17/17 4:04 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Are we really all that short of manpower? > That has been my impression. Not for me to decide, though. My impression is that we have been relatively stable over the last few/several/many years. Some old time regulars have dropped out, some new people (including yourself) have replaced them. > > For what it's worth, I read the Elisp manual frequently. > Okay. But do you refer to it more often than to docstrings? No, I refer to doc strings more often, but I probably spend about the same amount of time reading doc strings and the manuals. With Emacs being so extensive, I can't possibly hold the details of even what I use every day in my head. Heck, I even consult the CC Mode manual (which I largely wrote) to help me adjust my CC Mode configuration. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).