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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can't M-x compile-defun `edebug' because dynamic variables are falsely taken as lexical.
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 10:54:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170105105426.GB3835@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvlguqcvs2.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>

Hello, Stefan.

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 05:26:53PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> In which context do you need/want to do that (I ask because how to do
> >> it (and even if it can be done) depends on the details)?
> > I honestly don't know.  I presume that there will be code (other than
> > the byte compiler) which will want to make a distinction.

> There might, indeed, but it's very rare: in most cases rather than
> determining which kind of binding will happen, you want to decide/impose
> which binding will happen.

OK.

> I'm not sure how Common-Lip handles it, but AFAICT there is no
> equivalent to special-variable-p there, so they don't seem to offer
> a way to find out whether a binding will be lexical or dynamic.

> > After (defvar foo), the byte compiler seems able to handle foo as
> > a dynamic variable.  I'm still trying to figure out how,

> The byte-compiler *sees* the defvar, which lets it keep a note
> internally (in a data-structure which keeps track of the current
> context, which also includes information about which vars that are
> let-bound in the surrounding code were bound lexically, so as to know
> when we see a reference to var `foo' whether we should look for `foo' in
> the dynamic context or in the lexical context (and if so, where in that
> context)).

Thanks, I'll have a look at that sometime.

>         Stefan

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-05 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-03 14:14 Can't M-x compile-defun `edebug' because dynamic variables are falsely taken as lexical Alan Mackenzie
2017-01-03 18:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-03 21:32   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-01-03 21:48     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-04 13:39       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-01-04 15:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-04 20:04           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-01-04 21:49             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-04 22:02               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-01-04 22:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-04 22:44                   ` Drew Adams
2017-01-05 10:54                   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2020-02-13 16:42             ` Drew Adams
2020-02-13 20:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-02-13 20:43                 ` Drew Adams
2020-02-13 22:09                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-02-14  1:07                     ` Drew Adams
2020-02-14  2:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-02-14 17:25                         ` Drew Adams
2020-02-14 19:19                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-02-17 18:23                           ` Drew Adams
2020-02-13 22:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-02-14  1:13                     ` Drew Adams

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