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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The current state of the comment-cache branch
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 16:11:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161227161150.GB2324@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1cKrSd-0001hQ-1u@fencepost.gnu.org>

Hello, Richard.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 01:54:27PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

>   >                    First forward run     Backwards     Second forward run

>   > master:                 34.100s            36.050s	   34.575s 

>   > comment-cache:          30.110s            32.275s         34.990s

> Judging by those figures, it seems to be a rather small improvement.
> Is it worth adding complexity to get a 13% speedup in one operation?

Sorry for not being clear over the motivation, here.  Lots of bugs
happen in CC Mode because of the convention "open paren at column 0 is
defun start".  I would like these bugs to stop happening completely,
which was why I designed and coded up branch comment-cache.

I gave the timings to show that the comment-cache code isn't
significantly _slower_ than the existing code in syntax.c.

The bugs happen in (e.g.) C Mode when somebody writes, say, a "(" in
column zero inside a comment.  This happened in the Emacs C source in
March 2016, when a "(" in the GPL 3 licence statement found itself in
column zero.  This showed itself as a simple insert operation taking
inordinately long (~10s) to redisplay.  This was reported by Paul Eggert
as bug #22884.

Other manifestations of this "bug" have been reported since bug #22884.

Setting open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start to nil solves the problem,
but at the unacceptable cost of making CC Mode much slower (and it's not
the fastest mode in the first place).

> -- 
> Dr Richard Stallman

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-27 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-23 21:50 The current state of the comment-cache branch Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24  1:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-24  9:07   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24  1:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-24  8:40   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 20:56   ` Stephen Leake
2016-12-25 15:47     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-25 20:41     ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-24  8:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-24  8:30   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24  8:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-24  9:42       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 11:11         ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-12-24 11:36           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 12:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-24 21:48               ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]             ` <CADtN0W+7zHzuoWFrzs6MuonUM74D_dC+yh10rSk+r0nuxgeTBg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CADtN0WJYXRg=oEBxn3UPjF6RFJG62nG4GpUFaphdkj9Egde_4Q@mail.gmail.com>
2016-12-24 12:21                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-12-27 17:55                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-28 15:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-28 16:42                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-28 16:45                       ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-12-28 17:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-28 23:58                           ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-12-29  3:43                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 16:56                               ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-12-29 17:46                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 19:44                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-30 10:29                                     ` Andreas Röhler
2017-01-03 17:39                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-20 18:58                                         ` Andreas Röhler
2017-01-20 21:48                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-21  9:06                                             ` Andreas Röhler
2017-01-22  4:28                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-28 17:15                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-29  1:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-29  2:15                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-24 12:27         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-24 22:19           ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-25 16:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-25 16:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-28  8:37             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-28 17:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-28 17:10               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-27 16:40           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-28 15:35             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-28 16:35               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 18:54 ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-27 16:11   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2016-12-28  1:40     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-28  7:54       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-29  1:13         ` Dmitry Gutov

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