From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Perry E. Metzger" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Skipping unexec via a big .elc file Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:46:28 -0400 Message-ID: <20161025184628.1fad943c@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> References: <87eg51ng4r.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <87k2djwumn.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83h98nidvd.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg3rvtsf.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83k2dihpm9.fsf@gnu.org> <8760p2wzgj.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <838ttyhhzu.fsf@gnu.org> <871szqwu51.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <831szqhbc2.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1itt79z.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <7baa18d4-2b09-caa8-005e-29008a383ad1@cs.ucla.edu> <83mvhwrgd5.fsf@gnu.org> <8539f38f-9a11-44c3-4de7-bb974c96206c@cs.ucla.edu> <8360ojpndr.fsf@gnu.org> <83shrnm0k1.fsf@gnu.org> <83insi5jy9.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvht50qb.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477435665 13327 195.159.176.226 (25 Oct 2016 22:47:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 22:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 26 00:47:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bzAV2-0008P4-D0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2016 00:47:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58596 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzAV4-0002n8-P1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:47:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38940) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzAUR-0002m0-KM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:46:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzAUQ-0002iz-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:46:39 -0400 Original-Received: from hacklheber.piermont.com ([166.84.7.14]:52698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzAUN-0002gV-7G; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:46:35 -0400 Original-Received: from snark.cb.piermont.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hacklheber.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2993A7C5; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from jabberwock.cb.piermont.com (jabberwock.cb.piermont.com [10.160.2.107]) by snark.cb.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7022DE021; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:46:28 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83mvht50qb.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 166.84.7.14 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208808 Archived-At: On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 16:35:08 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I think some users will run away screaming if Emacs takes a whole > > second to start up. > > It depends. If those users, like me, have hundreds of buffers in > their sessions, and use desktop.el to recreate their sessions, they > already wait a few seconds for that. Just FYI, I find the fact that emacs starts up instantaneously a big win. If it starts taking a substantial period to start up again like it did 30 years ago, I'm going to be unhappy. I get that this simplifies maintenance but the startup time is a big lose. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger perry@piermont.com