From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22746: 25.0.90; OS X: Visual bell hard to see Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 16:41:54 +0100 Message-ID: <20160513154154.GA53701@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: <7b3980b2-41bc-48e7-ae23-ea28151f2954@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463154212 28191 80.91.229.3 (13 May 2016 15:43:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Xu Xin , John Wiegley , adrian.b.robert@gmail.com, 22746@debbugs.gnu.org, Anders Lindgren To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 17:43:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b1FFD-0004NI-6j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 17:43:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35051 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1FF9-00012O-4v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 11:43:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51917) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1FF5-00010s-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 11:43:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1FF0-0002sQ-UA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 11:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:37773) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b1FF0-0002sL-Pq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 11:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b1FF0-00066k-Ed for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 11:43:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Third Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22746 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22746-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22746.146315412523416 (code B ref 22746); Fri, 13 May 2016 15:43:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22746) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2016 15:42:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50109 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b1FE5-00065c-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 11:42:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-f45.google.com ([74.125.82.45]:38845) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b1FE3-000655-8E for 22746@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2016 11:42:03 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-f45.google.com with SMTP id g17so36731059wme.1 for <22746@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 May 2016 08:42:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=K+6KF+qrTuUtKzBwEfpn38Wx6xrlrUvkA9HEBYYpBb4=; b=LwX1Eoi4RnoB3BQr1sOSxgbHGmMN+bjq2luqLiWfDxs9u7oKD96hCfuL1ch9+ti1gU PljK6WzuRW0urr/kWDJqrlh097+TPl8JPu1mH0hWrn7hHOi//bP88jucGJ5WAwCn24RT bK7PyaLzCnBTeJTn135ap6H9ior4Auuo7+hvspPIlI7Gvqdx7ivRLI1SZnCTLPZjmz5C jzuLWqIyEiNtrtm5UmWz4rZydAkTZOBBVfiLzO9LcO52yhxhvfuBJx+TjIN/+aMZY198 SfSMNGcWPirBkIv16hvsg9xolvEx/+vD6w2eZg/yBncj+2vbbEe2k8Wa7ntFomPfqGK3 r6tA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=K+6KF+qrTuUtKzBwEfpn38Wx6xrlrUvkA9HEBYYpBb4=; b=hT9hYbSI3NdX9pi+ayYVjCCvcq2MMbrb+t51VPdQVSCLzTbUWe2kYbYNUIWtrwqSSe dGRRC21RQ6VnZSozo79t1CXf0F4nYX1Z7bMY6e/3LTEjsA7bdah7q09uHuIY2Q5FgNZJ llNj0PWKzwFKGiFHrgsxmo4VZyjrJIcOe+mTlE5KxMKeFNHObqNejcEhYhA2cR6q0qmC vw8ki3KdLjPPCHJdDOJzEWpVvvV1cmW8UdVO65PgFRqCCyug0GPYeprGotobOR8XNLJ0 RqO1mwb7e0Wh4yRNV4JWOG59nNOZcIiVw7lUh3xM1poqG1M0r/9+AUdiFkz42AtNa1RT ukZA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXsxuZpgqBS2x9LdnBbfmQhL8vjc940IWlDfx4USlvnHvfItQyp6qf0Ak1BvUIiig== X-Received: by 10.194.187.236 with SMTP id fv12mr16777269wjc.96.1463154117487; Fri, 13 May 2016 08:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from breton.holly.idiocy.org (ip6-2001-08b0-03f8-8129-cde6-1540-92a4-44b8.holly.idiocy.org. [2001:8b0:3f8:8129:cde6:1540:92a4:44b8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id xz3sm1838819wjb.10.2016.05.13.08.41.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 13 May 2016 08:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7b3980b2-41bc-48e7-ae23-ea28151f2954@default> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:118201 Archived-At: On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:17:15PM -0700, Drew Adams wrote: > > > What would be the ideal visible bell? The top and bottom lines flashing or > > > flashing the entire window, or do people like the warning icon? > > > > Personally I'd prefer top and bottom lines. Every better: give me a > > defcustom to decide between icon, top/bottom, whole screen, or some > > alerting function (which in future would allow for connecting with alert.el). > > +1. And not just for OS X. > > It could also incorporate what echo-bell.el does, or similar, > as one of the option values. Am I right in thinking that this would just require exposing the bell functions to Emacs lisp, and then providing a simple way to set ring-bell-function? Or have I misunderstood? -- Alan Third