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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 23425@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote.
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:57:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160504185746.GC31717@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4019c1e5-36b4-745f-b299-16b074bff81e@cs.ucla.edu>

Hello, Paul.

On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 11:39:08AM -0700, Paul Eggert wrote:
> On 05/04/2016 11:04 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Despite the
> > great opposition to it, Paul plowed ahead with several varied schemes for
> > curly quotes, not waiting for consensus first,

> This misrepresents what happened.

You installed your contentious changes without prior discussion on
emacs-devel.

> I proposed a scheme, ....

By which you mean you installed your changes on the master branch.

> ... got feedback, altered the proposal in response to the feedback,
> gained general (though not universal) agreement, ....

It's a pity you didn't attempt to garner that agreement BEFORE
installing your changes.  That might have saved a lot of bad feeling.

> and got an OK from the maintainer before committing the change. The
> installed scheme differs quite a bit from my personal preference. Like
> most compromises it's easy for each of us to find something we dislike
> about it.

You'll recall that at one point I installed a quick change to make the
translation of quotes optional.  Your reaction, the very next day, was
to nullify my change, rendering your translations mandatory again.

> I plan to look into the further change you proposed, with an eye toward 
> installing something like it (but I hope simpler) in the master branch. 
> It's a bit late to be fiddling with this sort of thing in the emacs-25 
> branch, though.

No, that won't do.  By "something like it", you probably mean something
that leaves the translation mandatory.  Only a facility which allows
total disablement will be adequate here.  After discussion with Eli, I
intend to apply the patch I proposed yesterday, and I'd be much obliged
if this time you would allow its intention to survive.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).





  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-04 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-02 14:55 bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-02 16:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-05-02 16:41   ` Drew Adams
2016-05-02 17:53 ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-02 19:10   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-03 15:17     ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-03 16:36       ` Drew Adams
2016-05-03 16:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-03 15:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-03 16:27       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-03 16:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-03 20:03           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-03 20:49             ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-04 15:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 16:48               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-04 17:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 17:37                   ` Josh
2016-05-04 19:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 18:04                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-04 18:39                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-04 18:57                       ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2016-05-04 19:02                         ` John Wiegley
2016-05-04 21:34                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-04 21:50                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-04 23:49                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-05 15:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-10 14:41                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-31  1:07                             ` Glenn Morris
2017-05-31  1:42                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-31 21:24                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-05-31 23:26                                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-02 21:02                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-02 21:15                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-03 21:10                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-03 21:10                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-03 21:32                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-03 21:32                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-02 21:47                                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-03  0:13                                         ` Glenn Morris
2017-06-03 21:01                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-03 21:01                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-03 20:53                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-03 20:53                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-04 21:01                                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-05 16:27                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-05 18:19                                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-05 18:31                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-05 18:31                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-05 20:37                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-05 21:05                                                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-07 16:50                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 19:29                                                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-07 19:29                                                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-06  0:14                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-06  8:21                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-06 12:24                                                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-06 12:24                                                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-06 13:55                                                         ` Yuri Khan
2017-06-06 13:55                                                         ` Yuri Khan
2017-06-06 18:21                                                           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-06 18:59                                                             ` Yuri Khan
2017-06-06 19:39                                                               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-07  4:57                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-07  4:57                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-06 19:39                                                               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-06 18:59                                                             ` Yuri Khan
2017-06-06 23:09                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-07  7:44                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-07 18:17                                                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08  8:04                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-07 13:27                                                         ` Drew Adams
2017-06-07 13:27                                                         ` Drew Adams
2017-06-06  8:21                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-07 19:13                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 19:27                                                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-07 19:27                                                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-07 19:33                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-07 19:33                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-07 19:51                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 19:51                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 20:33                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 20:56                                                           ` Drew Adams
2017-06-07 22:05                                                             ` `message' with quotes [was: bug#23425: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote] Drew Adams
2017-06-08 17:49                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 20:33                                                         ` bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 23:28                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08 17:34                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-08 20:17                                                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-09 19:41                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-09 20:17                                                               ` Drew Adams
2017-06-09 20:38                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-09 21:05                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2017-06-09 21:44                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-09 22:51                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2017-06-10  0:20                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-10 10:01                                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-10 10:52                                                                       ` David Engster
2017-06-10 11:48                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-10 13:01                                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-10 13:39                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-11 10:03                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-11 14:37                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-10 15:28                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-05 20:37                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-05 18:19                                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-05 16:27                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-01 16:56                                   ` Glenn Morris
2017-06-03 21:07                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-03 21:07                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-04 18:46                     ` John Wiegley
2016-05-04 20:23                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 21:15                         ` John Wiegley
2016-05-04 22:19                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-05-05  7:12                             ` Andreas Schwab
2016-05-05 17:05                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05  8:06                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-05 17:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05 23:46                         ` John Wiegley
2016-05-06  8:54                         ` Nicolas Petton
2016-05-04 19:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 21:49               ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-09 20:31 ` Glenn Morris
2017-06-10  7:08   ` Eli Zaretskii

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