From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] comment-cache 223d16f 2/3: Apply `comment-depth' text properties when calling `back_comment'. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:24:00 +0000 Message-ID: <20160310222400.GE4831@acm.fritz.box> References: <20160308132530.861.91488@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20160308183010.GB6269@acm.fritz.box> <20160309174816.GE3948@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457648524 12533 80.91.229.3 (10 Mar 2016 22:22:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 10 23:21:52 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ae8xp-0003ni-K9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 23:21:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51569 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae8xj-0006sK-R3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:21:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60981) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae8xX-0006sE-32 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:21:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae8xT-0006CP-2B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:21:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:32333) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae8xS-0006BQ-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:21:26 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 44819 invoked by uid 3782); 10 Mar 2016 22:21:24 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548A4841.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.138.72.65]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 23:21:20 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 25437 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Mar 2016 22:24:00 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201434 Archived-At: Hello again, Richard. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 04:20:28PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Thus, before you talk about "fixing" this, would you please > > > state what behavior you want to implement? > > That moving backwards over comments and strings will do the Right Thing, > > even when those literals contain parentheses in column 0. > We are miscommunicating. That's your desideratum. Ok. But what I'm > asking for is a complete clear proposal for the change in behavior in > Emacs. There should be no change in Emacs's visible behaviour, beyond correction of some bugs. > For instance, what would C-M-a do? What would C-M-e do? They would do the same as they currently do - except where an inadvertant paren in C0 currently prevents the correct behaviour. > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) > Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).