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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The future of Follow Mode - a proposal.
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 12:44:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160220124415.GA1758@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83io1kr12k.fsf@gnu.org>

Hello, Eli.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 08:45:39PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 18:18:34 +0000
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>

> > > I already explained this above: "the fact that the current display
> > > engine doesn't support windows of unequal width".  If you want to lift
> > > this limitation, the move_it_* family of functions, which simulate
> > > redisplay, and are the workhorse of every decision Emacs makes that
> > > concerns layout, cannot switch windows in their inner loops.

> > I envisage reinitialising the iterator structure as necessary when
> > passing bewteen windows.  The change in width would be handled at a
> > relatively high level.

Or, maybe not, se below.

> > The window start position is known, the window end position could be
> > calculated as we progress.

> The functions we talk about currently don't know what they are invoked
> for.  Your envisioned changes imply that they should behave
> differently depending on whether the results will be used for layout
> of the current window or the next/previous window in a group.  That's
> part of the changes I had in mind.  They are not trivial.  But without
> them, what you want to do will not work reliably.

How about adding an extra boolean parameter to the move_it_* functions,
perhaps called `physical', which when set would mean the function would
have to adjust its iterator when crossing a window boundary, when not set
would work the same way as it currently does?  `vertical-motion' would
also need this extra &optional parameter, possibly a few other defuns,
too.

There are around 150 calls to move_it_*.  I'm guessing that most of these
would set `physical' to false, perhaps more of the ones in window.c would
use true.

> > As an example, `compute_window_start_on_continuation_line' would have to
> > use the dimensions of the previous window to determine the window-start.
> > Jiggling the various windows around after text changes or scrolling is
> > going to be the hard part of the coding.

> Yes, and the result will be non-trivial changes in the overall logic,
> because redisplaying a window will no longer be independent of other
> windows.

Yes.  This is what is currently implemented in Follow Mode.

> It's all doable, of course, but I suggest taking a good look at the
> use cases for each of these functions, before you design the way they
> should work to support windows of unequal width.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-20 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-18 19:56 The future of Follow Mode - a proposal Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-18 20:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 14:25   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-19 14:34     ` martin rudalics
2016-02-19 16:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 16:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 18:18       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-19 18:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 12:44           ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2016-02-20 13:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-23 23:11               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-24  3:57                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24 17:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-24 18:57                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24 19:19                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-24 20:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24 20:21                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-25  0:30                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-25 16:28                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-25 16:46                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-25 17:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-25 20:30                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-25 20:57                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-25 21:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-25 22:17                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-28 16:40                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24 18:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-25 20:18                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-19 14:56   ` Anders Lindgren
2016-02-19 16:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 18:45       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-18 20:41 ` John Yates
2016-02-19 16:21   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-02-19 16:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 19:25     ` John Yates
2016-02-19 20:27       ` Eli Zaretskii

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