From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The future of Follow Mode - a proposal. Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:21:59 +0000 Message-ID: <20160219162159.GB3193@acm.fritz.box> References: <20160218195630.GA2697@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455898817 29962 80.91.229.3 (19 Feb 2016 16:20:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: John Yates Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 19 17:20:10 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aWnmr-00006j-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 17:20:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53491 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWnmn-0007vt-LC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:20:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46795) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWnmQ-0007me-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:19:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWnmL-0006Fm-Vj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:19:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:10986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWnmL-0006FG-Lw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:19:37 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 93102 invoked by uid 3782); 19 Feb 2016 16:19:35 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548A4E9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.138.78.155]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 17:19:34 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 11351 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Feb 2016 16:21:59 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200222 Archived-At: Hello, John. On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 03:41:22PM -0500, John Yates wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > There may be better ways to achieve the single mode line, but one way > > would be to implement mode lines as windows in their own right, thus giving > > them scope to be somewhere else other than squashed up into a window's last > > line. > I have yet to use FM. OTOH I have often wanted to put the mode line > at [the top] of my windows. There are some hacks out on the web that > approximate such behavior. They do so by usurping the header line, > thereby breaking various modes. > Putting the mode line at the top of the window is especially desirable on > large, high resolution screens. When a buffer's contents does not fill > a vertical window there can be a large expanse of blank space between > EOB and that window's mode line. I don't think this would be too difficult to implement, as a hack, and would be a good learning exercise for the display code. One problem I foresee is that there would no longer be anything to separate the main window area from the minibuffer. Have you any thoughts on how this would be handled? > /john -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).